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  • Concrete Limiter vs. Boost11 (p.2)
2013/05/14 23:59:44
rodreb
Just checked my account.... you are correct. I'll check the actual limiter "About" info tomorrow.
2013/05/15 01:45:57
FastBikerBoy
Concrete limiter over Boost 11 everytime. As Andrew posted Boost 11 is as easy to use as it gets but because of that there is less control.

2013/05/15 03:11:36
KyRo
Many people here use the LP-64 plugin? How does that compare to Concrete as a master limiter?
2013/05/15 08:45:26
scook
the LP-64 is a multiband compressor not a limiter.
2013/05/15 10:36:02
SteveStrummerUK
...wicked


Definitely Concrete Limiter, it's actually one of the best plugs Cake makes. Simple, transparent, effective.

 
I couldn't agree more ^^^^^^^
 
I've used Boost 11 quite a lot in the past, but I've been reopening a lot of older projects into X2 and replacing it with the Concrete Limiter.
 
I think it's by far and away the best (Cakewalk) Pro Channel Module.
 
 
2013/05/15 18:13:15
KyRo
scook


the LP-64 is a multiband compressor not a limiter.

"The LP-64 Multiband is a linear phase mastering compressor/limiter."
 
http://www.cakewalk.com/products/sonar/features.aspx?v=perform (under Master)
 
 
Would you personally not consider it analogous to the Concrete Limiter?
2013/05/15 18:35:41
scook
Have it your way, it is not worth arguing about. Any compressor with a sufficiently high compression ratio set is a limiter, if you want to use it that way go ahead. No, I do not consider it the same as the Concrete Limiter.
2013/05/15 18:41:01
KyRo
...??

Who was arguing? I was only quoting CW and asking for your opinions and insight. I have minimal experience with these aspects and am just trying to learn.
2013/05/16 14:41:28
stevec
Would you personally not consider it analogous to the Concrete Limiter?

 
Personally, I would not.   The Concrete Limiter was designed for that sole purpose, while the LP-64 is a multi-band compressor that can limit at high ratios as scook pointed out - but it is first and foremost a compressor; i.e., using lower ratios.   That said, I have no clue how the two algorithms actually compare when using them both as limiters.   It could be a good test for someone interested in finding out.  
2013/05/16 19:02:32
gswitz
On this one, I'm going to be lonesome and a long way from home. I still use Boost 11 sometimes and I like it. I have the Concrete Limiter and do use it at times, but not always. I have some friends who play acoustically. I record them playing all night straight through. I bounce their tunes one at a time. I normalize the tune so that every available bit is used at the loudest moment of the tune. I look at it visually to see if there is one or two moments that are louder than others that push down the overall RMS level of the tune (increase the crest factor). I may go back to the tune and adjust volume envelopes for those moments, then re-bounce. Now, I normalize again and take a look at where I am. I might use Boost 11 applied directly onto the track to boost the level 0.8 to 1.5 DB. This usually impacts only a couple of moments in the tune and it's easy to do. I can't apply the Concrete Limiter in the same way. Also, I think the look-ahead in the Boost 11 might actually help it sound good for this application.
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