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2013/05/18 12:08:51
Beepster
I've been checking the tracks for an old album I'm working on and there is the occasional clipping right on the vocal tracks (the problem areas can literally be counted in seconds for a whole album worth of material). I don't have much of a choice but to use these takes. They aren't super bad and it's screamer vocals anyway so I think I may just be able to mask it enough so it's not noticeable. So far I'm thinking a combination of R-Mix, zooming in for some fine surgery and some creative effects might get me close. However I'm wondering of any other techniques you guys may know of that might help. I'm pretty much limited to the stuff that came with X2/X1 Production Suite. Thanks in advance.
2013/05/18 13:52:31
CJaysMusic
To avoid these things, you need to check your gain stages in every part of your signal chain and make sure nothing is clipping and/or over-saturating a plugin effect. If you do that, you will not  get any cackles when you scream
If it was clipped when recorded, you can re-record it and/or try some restoration processes to get rid of it. some clipping when its done in the recording stage is hard to get rid of and sometimes it cannot
CJ
2013/05/18 13:59:19
Beepster
Hi, Cjay... I know. I wasn't the recording engineer on this one. I just get to fix it. Re-recording isn't an option either so I'm stuck with what I've got. Like I said it's very few crackles on an otherwise stellar set of tracks. I'm pretty sure it can be tamed/masked somehow. Just thought I'd check in for some extra opinions as I'm sure many of you have been handed something like this before. Cheers.
2013/05/18 14:04:26
Beepster
I guess ideally I'd like to be able to get zoomed way in, remove the clips one at a time then smooth out the gaps somehow. I just don't know what kind of plug or technique could do this without sounding weird... but I'm sure I'll figure something out either way. Even if I have to try to make the clipping sound intentional. It is metal stuff after all.
2013/05/18 14:07:35
gerberbaby
to actually answer the OP question, use microscopic cross fades. you can clone small clip a few ms before or after peak and replace peak (and again blend with crossfades). or entirely cut clipped wave, nudge over entire phrase to fill space...generally only a single wave peak...and again cross fade. barely if at all noticeable.
2013/05/18 14:11:17
Beepster
Nice one, gerberbaby. I'll definitely give that a shot. Another way I was thinking was cutting out the clip/peaks then using time stretch to fill the gaps and then bounce the section back to one clip but I think your way would probably sound better. Thanks.
2013/05/18 14:17:11
scook
Aside from the stuff you already mentioned (you have reviewed the Anderton video), one solution outside of SONAR would be iZotope RX2. The demo is fully functional for 10 days.
2013/05/18 14:18:10
ohgrant
 I was trying to restore an old audio take that I had some crackling issues. I used a low pass filter first, almost got rid of it, and then used powercore decrackle.  The only other programs I know of that also have restore functions are izotope RX and of course wavelab
2013/05/18 14:50:44
Beepster
Great stuff, guys. I'd never looked at RX before. Pretty pricey but if there's a full function demo I'll definitely be checking that out. I also have an ancient version of Wavelab on my old rig so I'll check that out too. I did find R-Mix to be really effective at some room noise removal so maybe... just maybe it's declicking function will help or some manual removal but I have a feeling that might take away TOO much. Maybe if I automate it. As far as the Anderton vids I really have to rewatch those. I watched them when I first bought Sonar and had no idea what the heck he was talking about. lol
2013/05/18 15:23:58
Beepster
Huh. That just made me realize it's been 1 year and 1 week since I first installed Sonar and joined the forum. Man... what a difference a year makes. ;-)
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