It is a Sonar limitation not an issue. In Studio One for example if I want to alter the music to play back at 110 BPM instead of 120 BPM it is a simple matter of altering the tempo and that is it! Very cool time stretch and all in real time as well. Going down or up 10 BPM would not even be audible. In fact you can go quite large distances before it falls apart. 

I still think though it is better to sort out the tempo accurately and early in the piece. 
 
BTW Pro Tools also does not time stretch very well at all either. It falls apart way before Studio One does too.

Jeff Evans


It is a Sonar limitation not an issue. In Studio One for example if I want to alter the music to play back at 110 BPM instead of 120 BPM it is a simple matter of altering the tempo and that is it!

Yes, I too use S1 and know how easy it is. Also, I handed the audio clip to a friend of mine who uses DP8 the other day and asked him to timestretch it, but the result wasn't as good as S1's.

Haven't used it, but Amplitube standalone lets you import tracks and alter playback tempo. You can dowload a free version, Amplitube Custom Shop and see if it works well enough for you.

use ctrl+drag on the slip edited clip and snap it to grid at your new tempo settings, then bounce it down. groove clip looping often misses the mark and doubles the loop length.

perfectprint


use ctrl+drag on the slip edited clip and snap it to grid at your new tempo settings, then bounce it down. groove clip looping often misses the mark and doubles the loop length.

I had an instance where I had to make a piece of music 'fit' over a 30 sec TV commercial. The tune I had been given was probably around 2 or 3 secs too long for the video. I used the ctrl+drag method to shorten the tune down to fit the 30sec video. It worked a treat, no artifacts etc. If the OP only has 8 bars to change i'd say this may be a good option.

perfectprint


use ctrl+drag on the slip edited clip and snap it to grid at your new tempo settings, then bounce it down. groove clip looping often misses the mark and doubles the loop length.

Thanks, but I don't seem to understand this properly (I've just tried it but it didn't work). Where can I find this technique in the reference guide?

Look in the help for "Slip-stretching".  It simply extends or compresses the audio by a percentage of the original value.

+1 on checking the BPM for the clip. 

stevec


Look in the help for "Slip-stretching".  It simply extends or compresses the audio by a percentage of the original value.

Thanks. I figured out why this "slip-stretching" didn't work for me......it's because the feature is only available in Studio/Producer. I'll probably upgrade to X2 Studio in the next upgrade sale because it looks like slip-stretch is going to produce much better results than using the groove clip feature.

Still, I wish timestretch was much easier in Sonar, because if I change the tempo of the song, I'll have to slip-stretch all audio clips that I recorded in the project (if I understand correctly).

Still, I wish timestretch was much easier in Sonar, because if I change the tempo of the song, I'll have to slip-stretch all audio clips that I recorded in the project (if I understand correctly).

In essence, you are correct. Sonar time stretching features are not so much as "bad", but overly complicated compared to the competition. You can get good timestrech results in Sonar, but you have to try various options, algorythms, ways of time stretching etc.


It is all hit and miss and not user friendly.


don't upgrade for more "time stretching features", honestly, they are not better in the full version.


And the Audiosnap feature is so complicated.. it looks like a dinosaur of time stretching. It works, but EVERYTIME I want to use it, I need to re-read / watch video about how it works, the various steps I need to take etc. It is that bad that I have not even memorised the process. .


So, the short answer to your questions is in my opinion: Sonar can achieve as good time stretching results as other software, BUT you will spend ages to get results other software now offer is a click of the mouse or two.