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2013/05/14 09:24:18
John
I can with Opera mobile on my Android tablet.  
2013/05/14 09:31:23
AT
Of course, letting a forum member change or delete or do anything w/ the content of the posts means Cakewalk by Roland is responsible for their work on the forums.  Opens up all kinds of liabilities.  It is a legal no-no - I believe that is a technical term in law.

It is one of those things that sounds simple that our legal system makes ... complicated.

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2013/05/14 09:55:36
John
Hardly. Its a forum AT with very little liability to CW or the membership. I don't think anyone has been sued because a post was moved or deleted on any forum. First where would one file?  In CW's case it would need to be in Boston Mass. Then what would be the alleged damage? If a lawyer filed its very possible he could be subject to disbarment for filing a frivolous law suite. This country is litigious but there are real limits.   

Keep in mind AT that everything posted on this forum belongs to CW. It becomes their property. They can do what ever they want with it.  You, me have no copy write on what we post. 
2013/05/14 11:57:07
AT
John,

true that, but you hit the nail on the head.  "..very little liablity."  If it was me I wouldn't take a chance.  Anybody can sue anybody over anything.  What is easier, ignoring the whining on a forum or taking a chance, however small, of spending money to have to protect yourself against frivolous lawsuits?  I know of condos etc. that won't accept lawyers (not a written rule, but still whishpered) since it costs a lawyer 5 minutes and a piece of paper to dispute fees etc. that the owner's association has to pay a lawyer to answer.  It is easier to weed as much of that out before it happens.  Same thing w/ a public forum.  Why give any control to a third party that could possibly/might be a problem?
One thing I've learned is if it your money, you don't jack around.   Would anyone sign a contract that stated they were financially responsible for any fees/costs incurred by Cakewalk by Roland for their forum so they could mod it for free? 
The mods ought to do a better job and it is best to squash spam quickly so you don't keep getting it.  But us forum users can't seem to do our part either, since people look/respond to spam, generating hits.  Which is what the spammers want. 

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2013/05/14 12:02:46
John
AT


John,

true that, but you hit the nail on the head.  "..very little liablity."  If it was me I wouldn't take a chance.  Anybody can sue anybody over anything.  What is easier, ignoring the whining on a forum or taking a chance, however small, of spending money to have to protect yourself against frivolous lawsuits?  I know of condos etc. that won't accept lawyers (not a written rule, but still whishpered) since it costs a lawyer 5 minutes and a piece of paper to dispute fees etc. that the owner's association has to pay a lawyer to answer.  It is easier to weed as much of that out before it happens.  Same thing w/ a public forum.  Why give any control to a third party that could possibly/might be a problem?
One thing I've learned is if it your money, you don't jack around.

The mods ought to do a better job and it is best to squash spam quickly so you don't keep getting it.  But us forum users can't seem to do our part either, since people look/respond to spam, generating hits.  Which is what the spammers want. 

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I have to agree with you AT.  BTW that 5 min is billed as an hour. LOL
2013/05/14 12:03:22
Grumbleweed_
SilverfoxUK


Only goes further to confirm how poor the forum is in general. 

You still cannot even post a message from a Android device... Well I guess Android hasn't really caught on yet, has it. (Jeeez)


I just did this on my S3 using the standard browser. 


Grum.


2013/05/14 12:09:06
Bristol_Jonesey
Yep, this is from my S3, works perfectly
2013/05/14 12:18:47
Cactus Music
One forum I belonged to back when had a way that you could not start a new thread until you posted 10 times and were given the once over by the Moderator. But I guess this forum software is the problem.  
Lots of forums use trusted members as Moderators. Heck, it's free, they don't have to pay them

( PS I cannot post from my Android ) 


I noticed a spam showed in the old forum this morning and was gone within an hour,,, so the Moderators must be here somewhere... The  spam usually stays around for a few days. 
2013/05/14 12:21:44
Grumbleweed_
Bristol_Jonesey


Yep, this is from my S3, works perfectly

I'd say it "works perfectly" is a bit strong - I'd just say it works .


Grum 
2013/05/14 12:37:14
SteveStrummerUK
AT


Of course, letting a forum member change or delete or do anything w/ the content of the posts means Cakewalk by Roland is responsible for their work on the forums.  Opens up all kinds of liabilities.  It is a legal no-no - I believe that is a technical term in law.

It is one of those things that sounds simple that our legal system makes ... complicated.

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AT, It's pretty sad really that in this day and age this has to even be taken into consideration.
 
But I can't really see any problem - the Forum Terms Of Service Agreement clearly states that:
  • By registering with the Cakewalk Forum, users agree that any post the moderators consider inappropriate may be removed at the moderator's sole discretion. Use of the Cakewalk Forums is a privilege, not a right. Cakewalk also has the right, at its sole discretion, to revoke board privileges at any time without notice.
It doesn't stipulate anywhere that any such "moderator" is, or has to be, a Cakewalk employee, only that:
  • Cakewalk is not responsible for messages posted on the Cakewalk Forums or the content therein. Unless expressly stated otherwise, this includes messages posted by Cakewalk personnel, agents, representatives et al.
All they'd need to do is maybe just add a small amendment to extend this, stipulating that this also refers to posts being moved or deleted by said "personnel, agents, representatives et al" and they'd have it covered.
 
 
 
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