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2013/05/09 18:37:52
aspenleaf
I'm using X1 Producer expanded with all of the updates, and I cannot figure out how to record the audio output from a VSTi (Addictive Drums in this case)to an audio track during the performance. Any input I select that should give me the signal causes the record button to disappear. Any advice?
2013/05/09 19:38:06
robert_e_bone
It is a bit unclear how you have things assigned and routed for the above.

If you have your drums inserted in the synth rack, you should have either a simple instrument track or (and this is MY preference) a separate midi track to trigger the drum synth and one or more (I use 32) audio tracks present in a track folder so that each drum kit piece is routed to its own audio track.  IF this is how you have things set up, then you would be recording the MIDI track, not the audio track(s) for the drums.  You could then bounce the midi to audio afterward, if you wanted to.

If you have something else in mind, please detail this so that I can better understand what you seek to do, and can better assist you.

Thanks, 

Bob Bone

2013/05/09 20:18:12
aspenleaf
Thanks for the reply Bob. I am able to do what you describe, but I'd also like to record the audio output of the VSTi as it is being used, instead of recording the midi, then bouncing it to a track.
2013/05/09 20:20:15
gswitz
Well, if it's a VST in Sonar, you could route the sound out of your interface and then loop it back in. Some interfaces have a loopback feature so it never goes analogue. Some interfaces would require you to send out through the D/A convertors and back through the A/D convertors by plugging cables from the outs to the ins.

I'm not sure you'd want this solution, but I think it would achieve what you're after.

For what it's worth, I'm not sure what the value is to recording the output of an effect.
2013/05/09 22:52:23
swamptooth
fwiw if you've ever recorded audio output from a softsynth, you can see the value after a little while.  it's a nice feature to have with patches that invoke random elements like some of the tools in reaktor.  there are, in some softsynths, parameters that cannot be automated but they can be controlled via screen interface and in a live situation, if you're interacting with your machine you can control the parameters but a reproduction is lost to the ether.  i find myself using record audio from instrument a lot in reason, because i have some patches that use the audio input from other synths with random noise generators as cv signals to other reason synths.  by recording the audio i can find a spot of randomness i like from the carrier signal synth and cut and paste it into different parts of the song. 
2013/05/10 01:36:49
chuckebaby
keep in mind you cant tap the kit pieces in the GUI of addictive drums and expect them to be recorded.
you need a device(keyboard/drum machine/exc.)
your midi will only be on one track not all the tracks(each drum).

you only need to have the rec button engaged on the main addictive drums midi source track.

hope this helps.

I also have a few videos in my signature below this post all about recording drums in sonar x2.
2013/05/10 03:54:01
Bristol_Jonesey
aspenleaf


Thanks for the reply Bob. I am able to do what you describe, but I'd also like to record the audio output of the VSTi as it is being used, instead of recording the midi, then bouncing it to a track.


This morning's simple question is - why?

Why do you feel the need for recordings just the audio, rendering any future editing of notes completely impossible?

Also, even with just the Midi recorded, you don't need to bounce it to audio afterwards, unless your pc is hopelessly underpowered and you need to free up resources.
2013/05/10 07:39:41
Teksonik
Reaper has this simple function to record the output of a VSTi directly to audio: I'll be trying to figure out how to do this in Sonar X2 myself in the near future. Just have to find the time to sort it out....... As for why....simple, sometimes you just want to capture a performance as one would capture the performance of playing a guitar or singing.
2013/05/10 08:50:29
robert_e_bone
Bristol_Jonesey


aspenleaf


Thanks for the reply Bob. I am able to do what you describe, but I'd also like to record the audio output of the VSTi as it is being used, instead of recording the midi, then bouncing it to a track.


This morning's simple question is - why?

Why do you feel the need for recordings just the audio, rendering any future editing of notes completely impossible?

Also, even with just the Midi recorded, you don't need to bounce it to audio afterwards, unless your pc is hopelessly underpowered and you need to free up resources.

Quite correct - no need.  I just offered that up because he seemed intent on having an audio track produced at the end of his recording - for whatever reason I am not sure, but that I suppose is completely up to him.  Anyways, to the poster, good luck with it all - I am not sure what else I could add to the thread.


Bob Bone


2013/05/10 08:56:26
Paul P
You insert a free VST plugin recorder like the Voxengo Recorder then drag the file back into Sonar.

I'm not sure how useful it is to do this, but it's nice to be able to.





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