I"m just getting into this cloud s.. stuff.  I wouldn't put something that could be of use to hackers on it.  Music?  I mean, who would want my music.  IF someone did, it would be making money?

As far as the government - I know even paranoids have enemies, but come on.  Who is going to be looking through all the dreck.  They have programs that can find key words/phrases, but as long as you're not singing about your own personal jihad and blowing up the new world trade center you should be fine.  And if you are doing other neferious business on your computer, well, you shouldn't have any proof on it.

In principal I'm agin government weaseling into private matters, but there is a lot more I would be concerned about before getting all worked up about some gunshoe rumaging through my deleted files and anything I put on the cloud.  It is there, sure, but so are the files of millions of others, each producing millions of pages.  We'll overwhelm them w/ electrons and they'll drown trying to keep up.

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I do not like the idea of the cloud as a primary storage medium but the idea of online, offsite backup is appealing. But for me it would be another level of backup on top of my regular backups to an external hard disks.

I have been taking some on line college courses. I use Drop Box to save my course material. It's a bunch of very boring word and PDF docs.
 I also save the actual web site pages for later reference as the College recommend doing this. Once you complete the course you cannot access the material.  It's like your text book. 

Drop box has been a huge time and work saver. I've been traveling about a bit and use 4 different computers,,, including my smart phone. 
It is very cool to do a little work on a document and save it. It's stored both locally and on the net. 
Sky drive doesn't seem to sync as well as drop box. Also Google drive seems badly done. 
I wouldn't use it for music as those files are to big for my slow internet and limited bandwidth. But I would if I could. 

I really wasn't trying to be provocative, I just like to be in control of the few things I still have a hope of controlling. My world is so up my butt with technology, that I actually have to pay $2 to get a paper invoice for my utilities. I have to pay for the pleasure of being billed.  The Amish may be on to something.

Adjusting my hat accordingly and still safe from sunspots.

AT


I"m just getting into this cloud s.. stuff.  I wouldn't put something that could be of use to hackers on it.  Music?  I mean, who would want my music.  IF someone did, it would be making money?

As far as the government - I know even paranoids have enemies, but come on.  Who is going to be looking through all the dreck.  They have programs that can find key words/phrases, but as long as you're not singing about your own personal jihad and blowing up the new world trade center you should be fine.  And if you are doing other neferious business on your computer, well, you shouldn't have any proof on it.

In principal I'm agin government weaseling into private matters, but there is a lot more I would be concerned about before getting all worked up about some gunshoe rumaging through my deleted files and anything I put on the cloud.  It is there, sure, but so are the files of millions of others, each producing millions of pages.  We'll overwhelm them w/ electrons and they'll drown trying to keep up.

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For you that is fine the way you look at it but I find it a little short sighted. I really think that I have a right to privacy. I don't want my information run through at all. Its very much like how everyone seems OK with being frisked when they enter a government building or wish to visit a friend or relative. I grew up in a time when those things were unthinkable. Now we have gladly let others decide that its find to probe and prod into all our lives at their will. This is not a right you or anyone else has a say in giving up for me but its long gone.

Each and everyone of us has data that defines us for various purposes. It may seem benign but if an error causes you to loose a loan or put you on the no fly list come back and tell me how you like your life open to any and all. 

It bugs me that when I make a purchase I am offered other like things on the Internet.  If I do a search for an item days latter I may receive an Email listing similar things for sale. To some this is convenient. To me it is profiling me. And I know the profile is wrong.

 

John, I was being facetious - well, halfway anyway.  We have too much information out there, which is wrong.  On the other hand, there is so much out there that it would be hard for the government to do anything w/ it unless you came up on the radar for some reason. 

Of course, w/ the government's penchant for screwing up, it is all too easy to end up on that radar through no fault of one's own.

But the lesson is not to put anything on the cloud you wouldn't want to publicize -or your mother to read.

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I don't look at the cloud-scenario so much as a privacy problem, but an "I'm powerless -problem".

If something goes wrong (legal issues concerning the system occur, major internet problem, ownership changes) what chances do I have to do anything if my files vanish or get unreachable? What are the actual responsibilities of the service provider?

HDDs do fail and get stolen, yes, but handling them is something concretete I'm in controll of.

The hacker-threat is one that should be taken seriously, anyway. You restore your project from the cloud...and it contains something nasty someone else put there???

ATS


Why would the government want my music project? 

Hard drives fail all the time, it is nice to instantly back up my project where I don't have to worry about it.

I think a lot people need to take off their tin foil hats :D

When you say you are backing up your project can you be more precise in your description?


Are you backing up your .cwp project. (That's the one you save when you hit "save")?


or


Are you backing up your project. (The one with all your linked sound file assets that will actually work as a back up should you actually need a backup)?






Curious minds want to know. :-)






best regards,
mike

So far I have no linked sound files to save, but when/if I do I will back them up as well.  I pretty much use all soft synths/samplers and all so... :)

Cloud storage should really be a disaster recovery solution.  You should still keep local backups and check them regularly.  Then, if the local backup fails, you can retrieve what you need from the cloud (which you've also been checking regularly).  A hard drive sitting on a shelf is much more likely to fail than the redundant and distributed storage that cloud services offer.

As far as hacking, just keep in mind that you are small potatoes.  It's not worth a hacker's time to get access to something that will not have a payoff.  And, as for losing control, that's why you want to keep a copy of everything locally.  Besides, if you go with a service with a larger market share (skydrive, amazon, etc.) then it's highly unlikely that they'll disappear over night.  I'd be more worried that they'd start increasing the price further down the road.  However, with SANs becoming cheaper and cheaper and storage itself almost dirt cheap I don't think we'll see them doing that either.