2013/03/18 20:56:41
Mosvalve
I know others use the VRM Box. I am not getting any sound. It seems like an easy installation. Not sure what I have wrong.  Can anyone assist?  Thanks
 
I have it connected to USB. Digital cable from out of my Saffire pro 2 to in on the VRM. Master out in Sonar set for Focusrite USB ASIO driver output 1. Not sure what else to do.
2013/03/18 21:32:24
robert_e_bone
I looked up the manual for the VRM, and this is from the documentation:

The user manual maps out 2 configurations for using the VRM.

It looks like for one configuration it can be plugged into a USB port on the computer and selected as the output device from within Sonar, which would use the VRM ASIO drivers, rather than the Focusrite.

There is a more complicated setup, if you want to use the VRM in conjunction with an audio interface, such as your Focusrite.  This configuration requires an S/PDIF cable to connect the VRM and the audio interface, and there are some settings you will need to concern yourself with, as well.

I suggest you review the product doc.  Here is the link to the user manual for the VRM:

http://d3se566zfvnmhf.clo...8/vrmuserguideeng1.pdf

Bob Bone

2013/03/18 21:39:39
sharke
Better route to take is the S/PDIF out from your interface, into the VRM box. Then, make sure the VRM box is NOT checked in Sonar's inputs/outputs preferences. 
2013/03/18 22:04:50
Mosvalve
sharke


Better route to take is the S/PDIF out from your interface, into the VRM box. Then, make sure the VRM box is NOT checked in Sonar's inputs/outputs preferences. 

Hey Sharke, I have the s/pdif cable from the output of my saffire to the input on the VRM. Sonar set itself in devices and driver settind sections to Focusrite USB ASIO driver input 1 and output 1. The master bus is set to Focusrite USB ASIO driver output 1.  If I uncheck Focusrite USB ASIO driver output 1 in devices how will it send the audio to the VRM? It's not sending it anyway as is so I'm confused.
 
Does the Mixcontrol have anything to do with this? I tried setting it for s/pdif but it won't lock.
2013/03/18 22:44:16
Mosvalve
Thanks guys it's working now. I did what you said Sharke once I though about it and finally understood it. Getting old is rough. Lol. At least in my case I had to turn off my pc then start it up again. I guess that re-sync'd the s/pdif or something. Thanks for the help.
2013/03/18 23:12:27
sharke
Yeah I think I had the same problem when I first installed it. Was baffled by the lack of sound for a while. When you connect via S/PDIF, there is really no need for Sonar to know about the VRM box at all. It's just taking sound directly from your interface. I presume that the VRM app communicates with the box via the USB connection. 
2013/03/18 23:13:40
lawajava
Mosvalve - I expect you'll appreciate what it does now that you have it working.
2013/03/18 23:30:11
sharke
The thing to remember about the VRM box is that it doesn't, and can never, recreate the experience of listening on monitors through your headphones (although for some reason the TV speaker setting seems to fool me ). Nor does it offer a particularly "pleasant" listening experience, in that you're not going to want to listen to your CD collection through it. What it does though is throw you enough "simulations" of different speakers to give you a rough idea of what's going on in your mix. The different settings are going to expose different problems - for example the "British Studio" monitors are instantly going to tell you if your bass is too boomy or muddy, and the Auratone and Japanese White Classic settings will give you a good idea of how things are going in the mid range. I also love the Computer Desktop setting, it gives you an instant indication of how audible your bass is going to be on small, tinny speakers, and if you can't hear it it's worth reading up on how to make bass more noticeable on laptop speakers (boosting certain frequencies, using a plug like Maxxbass etc). 


Some of the settings are very revealing (and disheartening). For example, my music nearly always sounds like crap through the bedroom & living room Hi-Fi Settings. But then I play some Steely Dan through them and it sounds great. Back to the drawing board! 
2013/03/19 08:56:22
robert_e_bone
Glad you have it working now - perhaps you can edit your original post subject line and add 'Solved' or 'Fixed'?

Bob Bone
2013/03/19 14:18:41
bandso
hmmmm... Interesting tht you can use the spdif option. I just go into my hardware preferences and select the VRM box as the output interface. I would need to change back to my regular interface if I want to record again, but I only use it during the mixing stage.
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