2016/07/12 03:21:35
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
bitflipper
Option #3, which may be the most popular solution: forget Waves. Despite the hype, there's really nothing essential in the Waves catalog that cannot be replaced by products from more customer-friendly companies. It's not 2003 anymore.




They are still good plugs, and even though I don't buy any additional ones anymore, some of the ones I own see a lot of use for a reason.
 
Surprisingly, licensing was never an issue at all (went the USB way from the beginning) and even upgrade to win10 followed by reinstallation of latest version was smooth (despite expired WUP, which I just don't believe in)
2016/07/12 10:03:19
bitflipper
Zo
Bitflipper is right but only partially cause i do find the waves tools to be hard to find elsewhere in an all in one package ....stuff like imager , metering , de noiser , de esser ect .... To get the equivalent , you will have to compose with a lot of brands combinaison ....

Agreed. No other vendor offers as much quantity in one bundle as Waves does. If you're intent on getting every plugin you'll ever need in one go, then Waves is your only option.
 
It's just not a requirement.
 
2016/07/12 13:02:14
kitekrazy1
PilotGav
I'm ALMOST tempted to install the pirated versions of the Waves plugins I legally own just so i don't have to deal with this crap... but then I'm opening myself up to:
 
1) Temptation
2) Crapware




3) Could get you a lifetime ban on forums for even mentioning this.
 
 When Waves has their super sales and freebies I use that to get a second license. The cloud thing is OK but having an iLok and eLicenser, I just don't want another USB stick.  I'm betting the reason way Waves has to work hard to compete is you don't have this hassle using products from Melda and IK. There are plenty of developers that are multi machine friendly.  Compared to other companies that require dongles Waves has a friendly way of switching licenses between machines.
2016/07/12 22:14:00
Fleer
And of transferring them when you want to.
2016/07/13 15:46:07
smallstonefan
Well three hours of precious free time wasted trying to get Ableton Live to open my project and it keeps crashing. Tracked it down to a Waves plugin AGAIN. I've uninstalled and re-installed numerous times and Waves just keep failing on me.
 
I think I might just about be convinced to purge them all.... 
2016/07/13 16:59:05
Eddie TX
Despite Waves' idiosyncratic installation, licensing, and maintenance schemes, there are reasons why they're the big dog in the plugin world. Their stuff works as advertised, is generally more stable than most, and in recent years has been available at crazy-cheap prices during their frequent promos. Many professionals have spent thousands of dollars on Waves plugs that have been sold lately for peanuts -- the same stuff that's been used on countless commercial recordings.
 
Classic plugs like L1 and C1 still get a lot of use at my place. They always do what I want them to do.
 
The whole Renn bundle is rock-solid and works better than many newer competitors. The H-series plugs are also reliable workhorses.
 
The Abbey Road package is full of vibe and character, as are many of the modeled plugs with names like Kramer, CLA, and Scheps. The SSL, API, and Neve emulations have been pro mainstays for years.
 
Nobody does multi-fx boxes better -- the new Greg Wells stuff is fantastic, and the rest of the Artist Sig series is a lot of fun.
 
Finally, I would not want to be without a lot of their more utilitarian tools like MaxxBass, MaxxVolume, Vocal Rider, and Center. 
 
For many if not most of the Waves plugs I use, I haven't found equivalents elsewhere, so I'm going to disagree with the claim that all Waves stuff can be replaced with products from other vendors (who may or may not be more customer-friendly). 
 
Bash Waves all you want (a common pastime), but the fact remains that they're used more than anything else in the pro world. 
 
Cheers,
Eddie
2016/07/15 07:16:20
smallstonefan
I have Waves Linear Phase Multiband Compressor and don't need it.
 
The WUP is up tomorrow - anyone want to swap something for it before I lose the ability to transfer? PM me if so... :)
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