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  • How many would consider buying an I-Pad if it could do THIS with Sonar X1? (p.2)
2011/02/15 16:36:10
Kroneborge
I pretty much refuse to own apple products, so no, I don't think it would make me get one :)
2011/02/15 16:36:54
ADM3
I think it's just a matter of time before this is offered and by most DAWs. I kind of expect that Presonus will do the same thing for Studio One soon.
 
 I've tried the AC7 Core on my iPad and found it to be amusing and somewhat useful but for me, I still find it quicker to just manipulate the controls via mouse. Since there is no tactile feel, you have to take your eyes off of the computer screen to look at the iPad in order to make adjustments and I don't really find that any more productive.
 
If you already have an iPad, then I think it's worth a try to see if it works for you, but I definately wouldn't recommend buying an iPad for just this purpose. Just my opinion.
 
FWIW, TouchOSC for iPad, iPhone, iPod, and android is an AMAZING touch interface. It is completely configurable. You can create custom layouts with many different controls. The only bummer about it is that it is OSC not MIDI, this means you need another peice of software to do the OSC to MIDI translation, right now the only software for Windows that I have been able get to work for this is Pure Data, and it is NOT user freindly. The software used to do this translation on Mac systems is called Osculator, it is supposedly much more simple to use than Pure Data. The developer of Osculator has announced that the next major release will be for both Mac and Windows. Once that happens, the sky is the limit. I will probably build a custom touch interface for each of my plug-ins.
 
Check out MidiTouch for the iPad as well. It's not nearly as developed as TouchOSC yet, but it is native midi and you can build custom touch interfaces on the fly right on the iPad.
2011/02/15 16:37:21
A1MixMan
Kroneborge


I pretty much refuse to own apple products, so no, I don't think it would make me get one :)


What about something like what Brandon said above, the Android 3?
2011/02/15 16:40:10
ProjectM
Hah! I refuse to own an Android device. Loving my trusted iPhone tho

Anyway, a wireless app for remote control or just a control surface would be cool. They just shut down developement of the Jazz Mutant Lemur so I guess a pad of sorts will have to do if you want touch screen interface. However, there's something about real knobs and faders too... but they can get expensive..
2011/02/15 16:41:54
A1MixMan
Brandon, do you recomend the SSD drives?

That's next on my list.

Any drawbacks?
2011/02/15 16:42:33
Guest
And i own several Android devices but refuse to ever buy an Apple device again. I have a cheap Android pad that I use VNC to control Sonar with and there will be controller software soon.
2011/02/15 16:43:07
Guest
A1MixMan


Brandon, do you recomend the SSD drives?

That's next on my list.

Any drawbacks?


Expensive.
Lack of storage space.
2011/02/15 16:57:01
Kroneborge
Actually I can't ever see my buying a tablet.   I already have a desktop, labtop, and mobile phone.  

To be honest, I woudn't have even bought the laltop, except I need it when I go places for my CPA clients.

Desktops are faster, and cheaper.   And a phone fits in my pocket.   I'm just not sure what  space a tablet would fill.

Note I don't peform live or tour, so that will never be an issue for me.


As for phones I've been very happy with my droid.  I love the fact that gmail is so easy to get to now.
2011/02/15 17:36:12
DerGeist
I tried the AC7 Core App with Logic and it worked great. It had a preset for Sonar which I assume works similarily well. I can't imagine doing a lot of work on it but I can see using it in a fashion similar to a Tranzport. A touch screen tranzport for $7 (provided you already own an iPAD) is pretty good.
 
 
2011/02/15 17:57:36
Keni
ADM3


I think it's just a matter of time before this is offered and by most DAWs. I kind of expect that Presonus will do the same thing for Studio One soon.
 
 I've tried the AC7 Core on my iPad and found it to be amusing and somewhat useful but for me, I still find it quicker to just manipulate the controls via mouse. Since there is no tactile feel, you have to take your eyes off of the computer screen to look at the iPad in order to make adjustments and I don't really find that any more productive.
 
If you already have an iPad, then I think it's worth a try to see if it works for you, but I definately wouldn't recommend buying an iPad for just this purpose. Just my opinion.
 
FWIW, TouchOSC for iPad, iPhone, iPod, and android is an AMAZING touch interface. It is completely configurable. You can create custom layouts with many different controls. The only bummer about it is that it is OSC not MIDI, this means you need another peice of software to do the OSC to MIDI translation, right now the only software for Windows that I have been able get to work for this is Pure Data, and it is NOT user freindly. The software used to do this translation on Mac systems is called Osculator, it is supposedly much more simple to use than Pure Data. The developer of Osculator has announced that the next major release will be for both Mac and Windows. Once that happens, the sky is the limit. I will probably build a custom touch interface for each of my plug-ins.
 
Check out MidiTouch for the iPad as well. It's not nearly as developed as TouchOSC yet, but it is native midi and you can build custom touch interfaces on the fly right on the iPad.


Presonus already has a pc applet for remote control of the StudioLive board series... the same as the i-pad aplet... Everybody likes to have computer control of their' hardware... Tho I don't use it, this is what I believe AIM is for in Sonar...

I'll bet there's a way to create Sonar executable commands to run any board that supports MIDI.... I'm sure we could always go back to an old version of Sonar and create Studioware panels for anything...

It's interesting how many people are moving away from "the board" as the center of their' studio... It seems to be getting more popular to have a collection of preamps/eq's/compressors/etc. and to pick and choose to suite the track's needs... I'm not one of those myself. I much prefer to have a good board with pre's I like overall.... and then a few outboard for "special" needs... So I dream of an old Neve board.... I don't think any were made with any automation more than Flying Faders (wonderful as it is, not directly compatible with any software I know of)...

Presonus placed themselves in a good situation by creating the hardware, software for the entire process into a very nicely packaged setup...

Tho I haven't personally used it, I'm guessing the the Cakewalk/Roland V700 (Is that the right model#?) system must be similar... but hasn't yet made as big a splash...?

Tho it's far from a Neve console, the Studiolive is quite a piece of work... Tho it's got some rough edges, any artist could do far worse than this as their' i/o....

But as to automating the board? I don't really get it as I don't choose to mix thru the board.... It's virtual gadgets (eq/comp/etc.) are pretty good, but still not a replacement for the various choices I have in the box... But I can imagine someone using one live and running in sync with performance to execute automated mixing? Sounds like fun! ;-)

Keni

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