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2011/02/15 23:25:05
Jim Wright
I looked at the Android tablets,  but reports are that Android has pretty abysmal native MIDI performance (bad jitter and latency).  iPads (and even my iPod Touch) have 1 millisecond MIDI timing accuracy since a recent iOS update, which is better than many Windows PCs, once you add up all the jitter sources.

Based on that alone, and given my personal needs, I'd probably go for an iPad over an Android.  Plus, iPads were all over the winter NAMM show ... Android, not so much.  Prospects for improvements to native Android MIDI support don't seem very good at present (based on some Google searching; I'd love to be wrong about that).  I have a friend at Google; maybe he can shed some light on this.

The Alesis Studio Dock ($199) seems like a pretty cool add-on too :)

I don't see iPads or Androids replacing a DAW for most needs, but I think there's huge potential for specialized control surfaces, live performance, and such.

2011/02/15 23:54:49
Lanceindastudio
MAC needs to go away lol
2011/02/16 03:47:44
Eyes
While an IPad control for Sonar would be cool, I agree that its worth waiting for more powerful technology.

In a recent article (I think it was on CDM), they had one of the new tablets coming out run Pro Tools (streaming 9 tracks iirc). No DAW comparisons necessary, but to be able to run PT9 nativly off it shows alot of computing power, defiantly more than an IPad.
2011/02/16 04:02:17
Freddie H
As long Apple continue with all its restriction and politics and doesn't add a simple FLASH PLAYER that they can get 100% free from Adobe, NO NEVER!!!

Yes you need to jailbreak the Iphone or Ipad just to get simple functionality? How ****ed isn't that?
I have Iphone now but this year I will ditch it and get an HTC phone instead.

Apple - Products made for people that has very low tech knowledge and understanding how to build, operate computers and systems, technology gadgets and so on.


LOOK----> http://www.htc.com/europe...ct/flyer/overview.html

A Ipad with customization better SCREEN, better Graphic and with FLASH PLAYER that work!!!

Regards
Freddie
2011/02/16 04:24:26
Lanceindastudio
Like I said, MAC needs to go away-
My HTC goole phone (G2)/predecessor of the first ever Android phone, the G1(my last phone) makes iphone look like a toy. Dropped calls? What is that? Qwerty keyboard? DUH...

And it is sexier than an iphone if ya ask me-

My PC does the same to a MAC-

F**K a MAC - 





2011/02/16 04:24:26
RogerH
I've got an Iphone, but that's the only apple product I will get. I can't see what's so great about this Ipad thing. Overprized and overhyped!
I'll rather buy a real hardware controller....
2011/02/16 05:24:41
adrian4u
10Ten


And i own several Android devices but refuse to ever buy an Apple device again. I have a cheap Android pad that I use VNC to control Sonar with and there will be controller software soon.

Can you give some links and Photos?
I was intereste in "normal" touchscreen and second graphic card, but it's tooo expensive in comparison to what you can do with it.
iPad just for using as a "virtual control suface" - is not an option too. Even with Alesis dock and using it with some softsynths - it doesn't seem to be "best choice"....
 
So - what Android tablet, what exactly software and - can you give photos/links?
2011/02/16 08:10:22
DerGeist
One thing that I have noticed with iPAD/Phone/Pod and android apps that control software on a remote computer or other pieces of hardware is that, in most cases, the App is not produced the company that created the software/hardware its controlling. Its usually done by some other company or some guy as a project. I think this is probably a good thing. Big ships turn too slow and the world of Apps is actually letting some little guys get out there ahead of bigger companies.
 
I think this is probably the way forward. I'm sure cakewalk could create a great Sonar control App, but I'm betting by the time they did somebody else will have already done it (AC7) and it won't necessary. Sometimes its handy to get different developers insight into how to control an existing piece of software (Benstat).
 
2011/02/16 08:47:37
Danny Danzi
Freddie H


As long Apple continue with all its restriction and politics and doesn't add a simple FLASH PLAYER that they can get 100% free from Adobe, NO NEVER!!!

Yes you need to jailbreak the Iphone or Ipad just to get simple functionality? How ****ed isn't that?
I have Iphone now but this year I will ditch it and get an HTC phone instead.

Apple - Products made for people that has very low tech knowledge and understanding how to build, operate computers and systems, technology gadgets and so on.


LOOK----> http://www.htc.com/europe/product/flyer/overview.html

A Ipad with customization better SCREEN, better Graphic and with FLASH PLAYER that work!!!

Regards
Freddie

Freddie, I just got the top of the line HTC phone....it's absolutely amazing man. Don't procrastinate for a second and don't read the reviews that bash it. Whoever those people are, they shouldn't be allowed to own a phone let alone talk on one. All the things they mention that don't work on it, DO work....especially blue tooth. They just don't know how to initiate their device to have the phone recognize it...so right away they bash it publicly.
 
The only issue with the phone at this time is you cannot use your own ring tones. Though this is important to me as I like to use either parts of my songs or other funny ring tones, it's not a show stopper really. I've heard that they will implement this feature eventually, so not all hope is lost. Also, the surround sound speakers are really cool and provide much better sound than I thought they would. It's actually quite impressive. As soon as you can make the purchase, grab it. It's the best phone I've ever owned. WiFi works awesome and the freakin' phone downloads things nearly as fast as my laptop/pc's. Ton's of apps and games for it, but not as much as the "eye-phone". LOL! That's what we call it here....one of my clients spelled it like that in an email and it's been a running joke for some time now. ;) Anyway...you'll dig this phone if you get one. It's still pretty new so there is quite a bit they need to roll out with it.
2011/02/16 10:22:52
AT
Having a tablet or pad or whatever replacing a lap or desktop seems a bit far off.  What is nice about the pad is its portability, not its power.  Running SONAR or any DAW on it seems kinda silly - cramped screen, lack of keyboard, etc.  Too many compromises, tho it should be noted I used to run SONAR on CPUs that didn't match the tablet's specs.

I'm planning on getting a keyboard/cover combo for mine - the onscreen version is OK, but more like a blackberry and I'm back to pecking w/ one finger (about the only useful class I took my snr. year in HS was typing).

As an adjunct to your main rig, tho, I think a tablet/pad style controller is a great solution.  So many things that are tedious on the mouse are easy on it.  See and touch, scroll.  natural.  Faders, of course, are better as hardware.  I'm use to the tactile feedback.  And I've played with some of the soft synths for the IPad and the rotaries are a pretty nice way to do that.

Ideally, your touchpad replaces the mouse next to keyboard.  Move around the screen (clone view), click on a button or knob and have a pop up for large scale roarty control.  Back, on to next item.  Bring up fx or a softsynth for editing.  blah blah blah.  Even faders are doable, tho having a single motorized fader built-in to your pad would be the penultimate controller.  VS 1000?

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