DJSur

It just seems to get worse with each release since I switched from a different DAW to Sonar at version 7. This overall experience has made me decide to wait on any further upgrades past 8.5. The thing for me is that what I've learned and am able to do with Sonar, I really really love and won't go with another DAW on PC. So, this is a hopeful complaint. One more gripe: The whole "It works on our machines at Cakewalk fine" is not useful to customers. 


Thanks,


-D

All I can say is that I'm sorry it appears to get worse with each release for you and I'm sincere in that we take that to heart. X1b is an attempt to hopefully instill some confidence in users such as yourself. I also hope there will be a demo soon so you can try it out for yourself and feel comfortable with upgrading if that is your desire.

Regarding the "it works fine on our machines" not being helpful, I respectfully disagree. I think it is in fact helpful, but let me explain. When something doesn't work for me in software I instantly want to know if it works on another machine or someone else's computer so I know if it can work or if it is just inherently broken on all counts. I think some people misinterpret these comments. They are not mean to dismiss anyone's problem but simply to say that the experience is not across the board and inherent to all user experience. I personally feel this is helpful data and I know I welcome this kind of data when I am simply in the customer's shoes in using other software or devices, etc. If something does for work for me should I not report it after testing it?

Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
]

DJSur

It just seems to get worse with each release since I switched from a different DAW to Sonar at version 7. This overall experience has made me decide to wait on any further upgrades past 8.5. The thing for me is that what I've learned and am able to do with Sonar, I really really love and won't go with another DAW on PC. So, this is a hopeful complaint. One more gripe: The whole "It works on our machines at Cakewalk fine" is not useful to customers. 


Thanks,


-D

All I can say is that I'm sorry it appears to get worse with each release for you and I'm sincere in that we take that to heart. X1b is an attempt to hopefully instill some confidence in users such as yourself. I also hope there will be a demo soon so you can try it out for yourself and feel comfortable with upgrading if that is your desire.

Regarding the "it works fine on our machines" not being helpful, I respectfully disagree. I think it is in fact helpful, but let me explain. When something doesn't work for me in software I instantly want to know if it works on another machine or someone else's computer so I know if it can work or if it is just inherently broken on all counts. I think some people misinterpret these comments. They are not mean to dismiss anyone's problem but simply to say that the experience is not across the board and inherent to all user experience. I personally feel this is helpful data and I know I welcome this kind of data when I am simply in the customer's shoes in using other software or devices, etc. If something does for work for me should I not report it after testing it?

Understood. Thanks, for taking the time to listen and respond (on a Sunday even) I've taken enough of your time and you've replied to all of my concerns. I look forward to the demo and an upgrade!

Brandon, you're awesome and so is Sonar!


-Dan

DJSur

Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
]

DJSur

It just seems to get worse with each release since I switched from a different DAW to Sonar at version 7. This overall experience has made me decide to wait on any further upgrades past 8.5. The thing for me is that what I've learned and am able to do with Sonar, I really really love and won't go with another DAW on PC. So, this is a hopeful complaint. One more gripe: The whole "It works on our machines at Cakewalk fine" is not useful to customers. 


Thanks,


-D

All I can say is that I'm sorry it appears to get worse with each release for you and I'm sincere in that we take that to heart. X1b is an attempt to hopefully instill some confidence in users such as yourself. I also hope there will be a demo soon so you can try it out for yourself and feel comfortable with upgrading if that is your desire.

Regarding the "it works fine on our machines" not being helpful, I respectfully disagree. I think it is in fact helpful, but let me explain. When something doesn't work for me in software I instantly want to know if it works on another machine or someone else's computer so I know if it can work or if it is just inherently broken on all counts. I think some people misinterpret these comments. They are not mean to dismiss anyone's problem but simply to say that the experience is not across the board and inherent to all user experience. I personally feel this is helpful data and I know I welcome this kind of data when I am simply in the customer's shoes in using other software or devices, etc. If something does for work for me should I not report it after testing it?

Understood. Thanks, for taking the time to listen and respond (on a Sunday even) I've taken enough of your time and you've replied to all of my concerns. I look forward to the demo and an upgrade!

Brandon, you're awesome and so is Sonar!


-Dan

Many thanks Dan! I appreciate you allowing me to clarify myself and for the thoughtful conversation in general. Enjoy the rest of the weekend.

I'm just feeling a bit let down with all the issues for a major release I'm reading about (no I haven't upgraded yet to have any hands on feedback to offer) It just seems to get worse with each release since I switched from a different DAW to Sonar at version 7. This overall experience has made me decide to wait on any further upgrades past 8.5.

 
While I can understand you being nervous about upgrading because of what you read on the forums, I think it's a huge mistake to not upgrade. With all of the problems with X1, we've already recorded 2 full songs and they both have been the easist and best sounding songs we've made so far. Even with all of the random crashes we get (most when editing midi notes), it's still been worth it to have X1. I think you will eventually upgrade anyway, so you might as well start learning and using it now.
 
Just my opinion. But my bet is that you will love it.

Yeah, you're right. I went ahead and ordered the upgrade to X1 and grabbed the Rapture upgrade too. 


It's all good!


-Dan

Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
]

DJSur

It just seems to get worse with each release since I switched from a different DAW to Sonar at version 7. This overall experience has made me decide to wait on any further upgrades past 8.5. The thing for me is that what I've learned and am able to do with Sonar, I really really love and won't go with another DAW on PC. So, this is a hopeful complaint. One more gripe: The whole "It works on our machines at Cakewalk fine" is not useful to customers. 


Thanks,


-D

All I can say is that I'm sorry it appears to get worse with each release for you and I'm sincere in that we take that to heart. X1b is an attempt to hopefully instill some confidence in users such as yourself. I also hope there will be a demo soon so you can try it out for yourself and feel comfortable with upgrading if that is your desire.

Regarding the "it works fine on our machines" not being helpful, I respectfully disagree. I think it is in fact helpful, but let me explain. When something doesn't work for me in software I instantly want to know if it works on another machine or someone else's computer so I know if it can work or if it is just inherently broken on all counts. I think some people misinterpret these comments. They are not mean to dismiss anyone's problem but simply to say that the experience is not across the board and inherent to all user experience. I personally feel this is helpful data and I know I welcome this kind of data when I am simply in the customer's shoes in using other software or devices, etc. If something does for work for me should I not report it after testing it?

+1  Applause!

Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
]

DJSur

Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
]

DJSur

It just seems to get worse with each release since I switched from a different DAW to Sonar at version 7. This overall experience has made me decide to wait on any further upgrades past 8.5. The thing for me is that what I've learned and am able to do with Sonar, I really really love and won't go with another DAW on PC. So, this is a hopeful complaint. One more gripe: The whole "It works on our machines at Cakewalk fine" is not useful to customers. 


Thanks,


-D

All I can say is that I'm sorry it appears to get worse with each release for you and I'm sincere in that we take that to heart. X1b is an attempt to hopefully instill some confidence in users such as yourself. I also hope there will be a demo soon so you can try it out for yourself and feel comfortable with upgrading if that is your desire.

Regarding the "it works fine on our machines" not being helpful, I respectfully disagree. I think it is in fact helpful, but let me explain. When something doesn't work for me in software I instantly want to know if it works on another machine or someone else's computer so I know if it can work or if it is just inherently broken on all counts. I think some people misinterpret these comments. They are not mean to dismiss anyone's problem but simply to say that the experience is not across the board and inherent to all user experience. I personally feel this is helpful data and I know I welcome this kind of data when I am simply in the customer's shoes in using other software or devices, etc. If something does for work for me should I not report it after testing it?

Understood. Thanks, for taking the time to listen and respond (on a Sunday even) I've taken enough of your time and you've replied to all of my concerns. I look forward to the demo and an upgrade!

Brandon, you're awesome and so is Sonar!


-Dan

Many thanks Dan! I appreciate you allowing me to clarify myself and for the thoughtful conversation in general. Enjoy the rest of the weekend.

It's the least I can do in appreciation for the Cakewalk staff putting up with all the 'goings on' here 

Just to get back on original topic I got the AC-7 core app and an ipad this last week and I can tell you it worked seamlessly, not a hint of latency issues on my wifi I use around the house for internet access, it wasn't even a dedicated wifi router anywhere close to my machines.

With the ipad screen resolution and the way the AC-7 app is programmed I cannot see ever going back to hardware controllers again

Psychobillybob


Just to get back on original topic I got the AC-7 core app and an ipad this last week and I can tell you it worked seamlessly, not a hint of latency issues on my wifi I use around the house for internet access, it wasn't even a dedicated wifi router anywhere close to my machines.

With the ipad screen resolution and the way the AC-7 app is programmed I cannot see ever going back to hardware controllers again

Just curious...are you using AC-7 Core with X1a? I haven't been able to get it to work. The MIDI driver app sees the iPad, SONAR sees the MIDI port and seems to be able to detect when I stop the driver. However, I am not able to get SONAR to communicate with the app on the iPad. After setting up a 'Mackie Control' control surface, it just show's as 'Connecting...' in SONAR.


-e.B

Try hitting the reset button on the ac7 core prog on the iPad, that's what I had to do, it may take a couple of goes. Once it picks it up it's solid. Works a treat on my system with x1a