Do you think that the rest of the world should revolve around you and your XP computer? And if you update the rest of the world should follow. So either you techno fob, stingy or just lazy complainer. You telling us your XP setup work perfectly obviously you have no clue how good it could be with Windows 7x64 or Windows 8 x64. Stay with all means with XP32 if you like but don't come here and complain that it sucks that the rest of the world has move on and doesn't support it. That's include Microsoft too!

WTF is your problem ? I asked a simple question "Does X2 run on XP ? The answer is Yes (but not X2a). But all you gear snobs had to jump in and start incoherently rambling about Amigas and other completely nonsensical crap. I haven't complained one bit......point me to one post where I said anything sucks ? Or is reading comprehension not one of your strong points ?

you obviously have an issue expressing yourself so you need to resort to name calling. either that or your just not smart enough to find the words. you can say what ever you want about the exscuses your giving here why you don't want to upgrade but its plain and simple. your using a copy of windows that is 3 versions ago. came out 12 years ago. id be willing to bet you have a lot of dx plug ins and an interface that probably dosent support windows 8 drivers. maybe im wrong. but heres the real deal... the next major update or version that sonar decides to put out, have fun standing there with your hands in your pockets. see there is a way of being politely ignorant with out name calling

Yes you are wrong....on so many points. I'm well aware that WinXp is a legacy OS and support for it will dwindle over time. Did you miss the part where I wrote that the company I work for that has over 60,000 employees just gave all the people in my office brand new computers with Win 7 stickers on them....loaded with a fresh install of WinXp? So I'm not too worried about it for the near future. I will of course at some point buy a new computer but right now....and listen to this part carefully...there is no need. I don't work with large sample libraries so 64 bit brings no benefit and everything is working perfectly here. So why change now ? Yes the next version of Sonar will not work with WinXp...at that point I'll make the decision whether a new computer or OS update is worth the effort....at this point it is not. It has nothing to do with being lazy or stingy it's a simple Cost/Benefit analysis. Right now the cost in time to rebuild my system is not worth the benefit doing so would bring. Pretty simple no? Quite frankly I can't understand how such a simple question as posed by this thread can cause such a controversy....

I agree completely with Teksonic that the reasons for not upgrading hardware or OS are usually due more to the huge inconvenience than to the cost. The cost of a new system is not an issue usually. If your DAW is stable and especially if you have a large number of plugs that will require reauthorization, etc - nothing can be less fun than going through that process. I am running an older Quad system which thankfully is a champ. I bit the bullet late last year when one of my hard drives failed, and upgraded at that time with a new soundcard and Windows 8. But I can definitely understand and appreciate someone's reluctance to make the leap if they don't really have to. It seems every update I lose a few plugs that won't authorize or which are a pain in the neck to get up and running - new versions of drivers, tweaking etc. Yuck. Freddie - doesn't sound like a complaint to me - just an honest question about whether X2 would work in XP. "Well bloody 'ell.......When faced with days upon days of work rebuilding my software library the desire to upgrade to Win 7/8 quickly goes away. Everything is working perfectly here so I have no real need to "upgrade" my OS for the time being..... Thanks for the info guys...guess I'll skip X-2 for the near future.....shame as it looks quite interesting." I completely empathize with that point of view. Upgrading can be a royal pain in the ass.

Thank you ! Finally a voice of reason. I own just about every plugin from Absynth to Zebra 2 from Amplitube to ZRev and several DAWS that would all have to be reinstalled and reauthorized most of which use Challenge/Response C/P methods. Then add to that extracting and reinstalling my Delta AP 192 soundcard and it's drivers, all the drivers for my USB midi controllers not mention the dozens of other apps I use and then customizing them all to the level I have them now and it becomes a task that would literally take days.....Every time I get the urge to buy a new computer the thought of that task quickly makes the urge go away. Of course I could have a hard drive failure tomorrow and I'd have to do the work but right now as I've said over and over....there is no need. Thanks again for your understanding and not being condescending....

I have both 32 and 64 systems because some software I need just won't run on W7 64 bit. As I slowly upgrade the software my XP 32 bit machines will fade away. Just like my Atari which I finally retired only 4 short years ago. Most of us own more than one of each of our toys,,,, a computer is just another piece of hardware like a distortion pedal.

Yes I've read many posts where some software just isn't playing well with Win7/8 or with a Bit Bridge. As I said earlier some software will never be 64 bit because their developers have quit the business. I'll give the Sanford Reverb as an example, one of the smoothest, sweetest software reverbs I've ever used. Les Sanford quit the business and none of his plugins will ever be 64 bit. Will they work with a Bit Bridge ? I don't know but some day I'll have to find out. My plan would be to keep this computer and swap out the AP 192 for an Audiophile 24/96 I have laying around and use it for legacy plugins while the new computer will only be loaded with 64 bit plugins. Then I can have the best of both worlds. It will happen one day I'm just in no hurry to make it happen tomorrow.....

Glad my Teac 4 track still works with any operating system. The op had his question answered way back before the ****ing started and should and will be able to update at his own leisure. so stop ****ing, cos this is why so many people are leaving here. Sonar forum used to be a good healthy and helpful place to browse. But not anymore.

Roy

Pragi

Frostysnake


He said wanker...LOL!!!!

no,  cocksmoker! 

...I hope you aren't calling me this...This would hurt my delicate feelings.

Perhaps you could dual-boot WinXP and Win7?    That would allow you to gradually update as needed, and figure out what's no longer needed as you move forward.  But you'd still have your existing setup for those projects that require it. 
 

Frostysnake

Pragi

Frostysnake


He said wanker...LOL!!!!

no,  cocksmoker! 

...I hope you aren't calling me this...This would hurt my delicate feelings.

Not you at all,Frosty,
it´s only that I prefer to fu..  arround  in my words. 
On the other hand, this threat seems to be an invitation to rumble,
but I don´t like this sort of "timewasting."
Frosty, one question cause I read your signature:
Guess you are running an I5, I7 or so,
are 4 GB Ram enough to run X2  64 bit ?

I´m building a new PC in Juli or so.


howgh  
Pragi

Perhaps you could dual-boot WinXP and Win7? That would allow you to gradually update as needed, and figure out what's no longer needed as you move forward. But you'd still have your existing setup for those projects that require it.

Thanks that's a great suggestion. I'll look into it...so I could have Win7 64 bit and still keep my WinXp 32 for legacy plugins ? Sounds like an elegant solution.

Pragi

Frostysnake

Pragi

Frostysnake


He said wanker...LOL!!!!

no,  cocksmoker! 

...I hope you aren't calling me this...This would hurt my delicate feelings.

Not you at all,Frosty,
it´s only that I prefer to fu..  arround  in my words. 
On the other hand, this threat seems to be an invitation to rumble,
but I don´t like this sort of "timewasting."
Frosty, one question cause I read your signature:
Guess you are running an I5, I7 or so,
are 4 GB Ram enough to run X2  64 bit ?

I´m building a new PC in Juli or so.


howgh  
Pragi

Sure, it'll run with 4Gb of RAM but you owe it to yourself & your system to install at least 8Gb - even more, depnding on your motherboard. I routinely eat up 9Gb when doing orchestral stuff, and that's without any Fx plugs, just the samples!