stevee9c6


I just wish it was more stable. I now auto save every three minutes.  X2 crashes almost every session at one point or another. It usually is due to a VST on one or another tracks. I even bought PT10 and Cubase to see if they were better. PT10 is steady but is the most counterintuitive software I have ever used.  I have not really gotten into Cubase enough to know.  I own a V-Studio 700 system that I really like, but as many others have found.... it is essentially a doorstop with other DAWS.  I don't want or need esoteric software functions. I want a Cakewalk solution that is rock solid and works with the hardware that was supposed to be the "cats meow" for Sonar. I would point out one thing however. Just be glad you are not locked into ProTools.  There new upgrade policy and pricing to PT11 making owners cough up an extra $1000 for the complete tookit they've already paid for is draconian to say the least. Pro Tools forums are literally seething over this.

I just want a solid, stable Sonar! 

Check out Studio One. It's been very stable here, and since this was the old Cubase development team, starting fresh, I suspect a big part of the stability is well built VST support. I had my first crash with Studio One yesterday since using it for a few months now, and it 1. was not due to a plugin dll (it was a VB crash due to some runtime call), 2. happened while closing the project, 3. did not prevent S1 from reopening immediately afterwards, 4. the project was in the state it was where I left it (i.e. not corrupt).  And Studio One looks enough like Sonar X2 that you should be comfortable using it. 

Just a suggestion. I'd still prefer a better Sonar, but as I said above, I'm not optimistic.

Paul P


Everything else aside, I find X2 to be simply beautiful visually.

The sharpness, the cleanliness, the 3D reality of it.

Strongly agree. Everything's a bit too large for me, though.

Jlien X

Paul P


Everything else aside, I find X2 to be simply beautiful visually.

The sharpness, the cleanliness, the 3D reality of it.

Strongly agree. Everything's a bit too large for me, though.

That's the biggest problem with the X series GUI. They made it pretty, except now we see less stuff at once (take the number of tracks visible at a time in the console view, or the size of the toolbar). In the end, workflow needs to trump bling, but Cakewalk clearly felt otherwise.

Funkybot : "take the number of tracks visible at a time in the console view..."

I wouldn't want the strips to be any narrower than they are when in 'narrow' mode.

To really appreciate X2 you need at least one large screen, the higher the resolution the better.

I'd like PC effects to pop out into larger windows, but apart from that I find everything is sized nicely.

But then I don't run X2 on a tablet.

Paul P


Funkybot : "take the number of tracks visible at a time in the console view..."

I wouldn't want the strips to be any narrower than they are when in 'narrow' mode.

To really appreciate X2 you need at least one large screen, the higher the resolution the better.

I'd like PC effects to pop out into larger windows, but apart from that I find everything is sized nicely.

But then I don't run X2 on a tablet.

I don't want them narrower in narrow mode either. I want them narrower in regular mode.

Funkybot

You can bounce to audio, but you can't record.


Let's say you're playing a synth part, and in realtime, you want to use the output of the VSTi as the input of your audio track and record it like you would a physical instrument. You cannot do that in Sonar. Instead you have to record the MIDI performance, then you can bounce it, or freeze it after the fact.

(Not being facetious at all here) Please explain to me what the difference is, aside from the annoyance of having to bounce or freeze to audio after recording. What is the difference in the end result between recording in MIDI and bouncing/freezing to audio vs. recording the performance instantly as if it were a physical instrument?

Just switch to Cubase 7 64 like I did.  I drop back here once in a while to see if by slim chance the bakers have baked a cake that won't fall in the middle . I see they still want more and more money to make a functional stable DAW. They have long since got my last penny. Well I better get back to recording . I  feel sorry for you blind believers.  I actually have money now to buy more toys as I am not burning it up in the bakers ovens anymore. Cheers  I hope you guys stop feeding this DAW slot machine too so it goes away and stops sucking peoples money for nothing but  the same old problems  with a few added features. Check all the other forums , none of them are filled wiith as many issues and unhappy people as this one. As for the cakewalk lemmings, seek professional help.

@Dimelives1 as I understand it some synths that have efx like a sweep that is not time synced to the playback can sound different from the next time the midi is played back. Beyond that there is no benefit as I see it. Of course one could always send the synth out to a hardware out and patch that back to an input and record that.

anniedog


Just switch to Cubase 7 64 like I did.  I drop back here once in a while to see if by slim chance the bakers have baked a cake that won't fall in the middle . I see they still want more and more money to make a functional stable DAW. They have long since got my last penny. Well I better get back to recording . I  feel sorry for you blind believers.  I actually have money now to buy more toys as I am not burning it up in the bakers ovens anymore. Cheers  I hope you guys stop feeding this DAW slot machine too so it goes away and stops sucking peoples money for nothing but  the same old problems  with a few added features. Check all the other forums , none of them are filled wiith as many issues and unhappy people as this one. As for the cakewalk lemmings, seek professional help.

No  thanks.

One quick look at their forums should tell you why. If you think Cubase is trouble free, think again.

And it takes a week to get an answer from anyone.

You'll see the light one day.........

anniedog


Just switch to Cubase 7 64 like I did.  I drop back here once in a while to see if by slim chance the bakers have baked a cake that won't fall in the middle . I see they still want more and more money to make a functional stable DAW. They have long since got my last penny. Well I better get back to recording . I  feel sorry for you blind believers.  I actually have money now to buy more toys as I am not burning it up in the bakers ovens anymore. Cheers  I hope you guys stop feeding this DAW slot machine too so it goes away and stops sucking peoples money for nothing but  the same old problems  with a few added features. Check all the other forums , none of them are filled wiith as many issues and unhappy people as this one. As for the cakewalk lemmings, seek professional help.

I assume that you're either a troll, and lying, or some kind of a dullard.
 
"None of the other forums.." - this is demonstrably untrue.  You have either not read them, or are a troll.  All DAWS have issues.
 
Sonar X2a working fine here, as was X1d.
 
Have fun recording, though, whichever you are.