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2013/04/29 22:28:26
Kev999
daveny5

In my opinion you can just use the UX2, but don't connect the USB cable...  
Unfortunately it's not possible to use a UX2 without it being connected via USB.
2013/04/30 09:06:10
daveny5
Unfortunately it's not possible to use a UX2 without it being connected via USB.



Ah... I didn't know that. Nevermind. 
2013/04/30 09:51:48
bandso
Run a 1/4" cable out of the back of the ux2 and into the soundcard of the m-audio. Make sure that the m-audio sound card is selected as your recording device in sonar. Fire up toneport. As long as your m-audio card is set with low buffers or has zero latency monitoring, you should not have much latency and be able to hear the amp model from the toneport correctly. However once you record that tone into sonar it can not be changed (just like recording with a hardware pod) to another amp or cab.
 
The usb 1.0 shouldn't be an issue as you are are not recording over that usb cable. You are only using it as a dongle to tell the toneport software that there is indeed a line 6 interface connected.
2013/04/30 09:55:19
Marcus Curtis
pod UX2, Pod Xt and Xt live are all USB1.1. The Pod 3 series is USB 2.0. the best part about those is all the amp models are included. over 96 amp models. These can be found for pretty cheap these days. I believe the HD series is also 2.0. These devices are much faster then the UX2.

The thing I like about X2 is that it comes with a version of TH2 that is really pretty good. It rivals the Pod amps for quality. I use Pod pro 3 which is a rackmount unit that has USB2.0

The other nice thing about having a newer Pod is having access to Pod Farm 2. Much better then Pod Farm 1.

I know it is a matter of switching audio devices when you record your guitar tracks. you may just need to use the 2496 and use the plug in for pod farm. You need to plug in your UX2 to unlock Podfarm so it will work as a plug-in. That is what I did when I had my UX2.

The V-100 is my main interface. I plugged in the UX2 to unlock the software. It was never used to record anything.

Just copy and paste the dll files from the line 6 folder into the default cakewalk vst folder and you should be good to go. Use pod farm as a plugin from within sonar and avoid the ux2 all together.
2013/04/30 09:57:11
bandso
To answer your original question, yes you can use a pod hardware (bean or rack) and record directly into the m-audio card. As long as the card is set to low buffers you should have no problems recording the sound that comes from the pod. Many killer recordings have been done this way.
2013/04/30 11:47:53
_Angus_
  Still hoping one of you guys is going to spell out to me if a Pod 2.0 connected to my audiophile card's Analogue In, is likely to bypass the drop-outs and latency I've been having with the UX2 and the usb route.


Bob, I re-installed the audiophile and it plays an .mp3 (sounds fine) both in and outside of Sonar. I tried the same with the UX2, and _now_ there isn't much difference. :-/
2013/04/30 12:50:01
Jim Roseberry
 I get 5.8ms easily without ever experiencing any dropouts and I find this perfectly acceptable.  How low do you need to go?



One way latency... yes (playback or when playing soft-synths)
It's when you're dealing with round-trip latency that the UX2 is "problematic"... because it has high round-trip latency.  
Only an issue if you're trying to play/monitor in realtime thru any 3rd party EFX/processing (not the included Tone-port)
2013/04/30 16:13:02
Kev999
Jim Roseberry
I get 5.8ms easily without ever experiencing any dropouts and I find this perfectly acceptable.  How low do you need to go?
One way latency... yes (playback or when playing soft-synths)
It's when you're dealing with round-trip latency that the UX2 is "problematic"... because it has high round-trip latency.  
Only an issue if you're trying to play/monitor in realtime thru any 3rd party EFX/processing (not the included Tone-port)
OK, but what I'm getting at is that I believe that the USB1.1 issue is a red herring here, i.e. the OP's problems with his UX2 do not stem from the fact that it is USB1.1, but are due to something else in his setup.
2013/04/30 16:17:42
bandso
_Angus_


  Still hoping one of you guys is going to spell out to me if a Pod 2.0 connected to my audiophile card's Analogue In, is likely to bypass the drop-outs and latency I've been having with the UX2 and the usb route.


Bob, I re-installed the audiophile and it plays an .mp3 (sounds fine) both in and outside of Sonar. I tried the same with the UX2, and _now_ there isn't much difference. :-/


Yes, as long as your m-audio interface is low latency or has zero latency monitoring. Try it with a clean guitar or dynamic microphone plugged directly in to the interface. If it sounds ok latency wise to you when you record it will be no different when you put the pod hardware distortion into the chain.
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