• SONAR
  • 8dot3 filenames in track templates
2013/02/24 16:20:33
arachnaut
I have disabled 8dot3 filename creation on my drives and in many cases I removed the 8dot3 extra directory entries where there were no registry conflicts. (this was by using the fsutil 8dot3name management functions.)

It seems that this plays havoc with some of the Sonar pre-built track templates.

For example, if I chose a Dimension Pro template (Dpro House Stack) it is looking for a 'DIMENS~1' file. Synths that have short names (like Rapture) are not affected, but the ones with longer names and names with spaces are affected.

Sometimes I get a dialog that allows me to chose a replacement, sometimes this results in a crash with a display of a 'pure virtual function call' and no crash dump trap to report the problem.

I also can't run the "Usage Logger" from the Help menu to report these steps -  it won't start up. I never tried that before so maybe it's been broken for a while - anyone else have trouble with it?


2013/02/24 16:45:41
Bill Jackson [Cakewalk]
Hi arachnaut,

This is a known issue.  To my knowledge there is currently no solution other than enabling short filenames:

http://www.cakewalk.com/S...reader.aspx/2007013293

We plan to address this in he future by changing SONAR's methods of referencing VSTs.
2013/02/24 20:29:47
arachnaut
The method in that KB article is not foolproof.
The File copy/paste method does not seem to preserve symbolic links properly, it copies the files and folders, not the links.

Also, the desktop target might have 8dot3names disabled, as it does for me, so you have to find a temporary spot with short filenames enabled.


Basically, I have found that once you disable 8dot3names, and remove those old directory entries, you really can't go back. Or at least I don't know how to do it. Maybe ROBOCOPY can do it, but I didn't want to dig into that.

Weird how relics from the DOS days still haunt us.



2013/02/24 20:44:43
mudgel
hey bill,
maybe it can be addressed the the VST3 update.
2013/02/24 21:36:57
mudgel
hey bill,
maybe it can be addressed the the VST3 update.
2013/02/24 21:38:44
mudgel
hey bill,
maybe it can be addressed in the VST3 update.
2013/02/24 21:42:41
mudgel
Bizaare. In trying to edit a post ended up creating new ones.

Gotta love this forum software on a mobile device.
2013/02/24 22:53:26
John
Maybe so but I think he has gotten the message! LOL. 
2013/02/24 23:48:14
arachnaut
Looking through ROBOCOPY - the /SL option will copy the symbolic links.
2013/02/25 14:36:31
arachnaut
arachnaut


Weird how relics from the DOS days still haunt us. 

Actually, I should have said FAT not DOS.


Note that Windows Server 8 has a new file system ReFS (Resilient File System, codenamed "Protogon") that does not support short names. It will probably migrate to the desk top soon.
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