I am an old newbie that is I am 63 and done the analogue tape bit of recording and am now trying to get into Daw. I have X2 studio and have figured out the erasure tool to get rid of stuff at the beginning and end of tracks that I don't want and I have been playing with EQ and have found out how to add efx etc it is all audio I record guitars drums and bass mainly however I have a drummer who does not or won't see the pleasure of simplicity and in the middle 8 of a blues song (how blue can you get by BB King)there is a kind of call and reply thing where the vocalist sings then the whole band replies with exactly the same riff that is except our irrepressible drummer where he got the first break right but then goes on to play a different drum roll for each of the other 6 breaks all in time but wrong. Now what I want to do is copy his first effort and then paste it to the next 6 breaks he did wrong and I know you should be able to do this with Sonar but can not find anything on utube etc can anyone help.

Highlight the clip you want to copy then File -> edit -> copy, click where you want to paste the clip file -> edit -> paste. Control C and Control V also works and saves a few clicks. There are other ways to access the edit menu but I don't have Sonar open at the moment.  BTW......Scott's X2 Power book is awesome for looking up those little show stoppers. I hope this helps.

Rocky

Hold down Alt when using the mouse to select the section you want to cut out. Make sure you have Snap to Grid off unless you're cutting on a measure or beat boundary. 

Not sure if things are different now as I'm still on 8.5 version, 

But a few things I do with this situation. 

Clone the track first to create a working copy. Mute the original. 

Right click and choose the " create V vocal clip " This gives the track little diagonal corners. 

It's important that the song is to a click track to do the next part as it's easier to work in whole measures. Set snap to whole. 

If the song is in human time then set the snap to the smallest resolution ( 128 notes) and pray the band didn't slow down or speed up during this part. 

( an option at this point is to use split ..Go to the start and end of the part you want and right click and choose "split"  reason is you can drag these around easier ) 

Now do this for each segment your working with on the measure lines. 
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To highlight the part you want hold down ALT key while dragging. 

Now do your copy paste routine. 

Make sure to set paste options to Replace old with new.  

Supper handy for fixing up live recordings of a band where there are little boo boos. 
You can even do this with Vocals where you sang the first chorus better than the second. 
For me this has been a big feature of switching from tape based to a DAW, the editing is where it shines. The rest,, hmmmm... 

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bigbob63  - here's an additional / alternative suggestion. You can do the following steps for an individual selected track, for a few selected tracks, or for all the tracks in a song. Works the same in all cases.

1. Select the track or tracks

2. Figure out what measure and beat is your starting point for the copy. That will show in the blue display at the top if you click your mouse to put the timeline at the desired starting point. If the starting point is say the beginning of measure 21, just remember this: 21 1

3. Figure out what measure and beat the copy section should end at. Let's say it is 8 measures, then remember this: 29 1

4. As long as the correct track(s) is/are selected, under the Edit menu choose Select By Time.

5. For the starting time put in say 21 1, and the end time say 29 1

6. Then you can Copy. Control C copies just the data. Control Alt C allows you to select more stuff to copy, like the markers.

7. Paste is Control V, but Control Alt V (paste special) is much better because with that you can indicate where you want to paste it in the timeline and starting on what track ( if you're copying/ pasting all tracks you'd paste beginning from Track 1).

Say you want to paste measures at measure 105. You would put starting at 105 1

This is a very surgical method and precise. It's easy if you do it once or twice to get the feel for it..

Also you can use the same technique to Cut a piece out of the song, or to create 8 measures of new space, etc.

dear bigbob63, i had a good laugh, this sounds just like our drummer! but my respect to you to get to a DAW like Sonar at the age of 63 - so old dogs do indeed learn new tricks ;-)

split the drum break into its own clip (in track view hold the alt key which will bring up the scissors pointer and click on the beginning and end of the break), then click on the top of the break clip, press the control key (a little + sign will appear) and drag the clip to the new position.

Thanks speedtom I think you have a good name for my drummer in Germany  wolpertinger he can play the most amazing Ginger baker stuff but ask him to play something simple like a waltz and he is stumped imagine a 60 year old child who takes in too many E's in his food or animal out of the muppets.

Well guys thanks for your help but I still can not copy and paste I probably need Noddies guide to daw or something Bluzdog I will look out for scotts book

Daveny5 I tried your method when you are trying to copy and paste I am using the select tool (the arrow) is there anyother tool I should be selecting?

Cactus Music I am stumped at the start as I do not know how to clone a track

Lawajava I tried your method and could not get it to work.

Swamptooth your idea came closest although it took me ages to find out that the scissors dont appear when pressing alt if you use the selection tool instead of the smart tool after I realised this I pressed control and then this enabled me to move the copied bit over the first bad bit however when I did this it left a big blank space where the original bit was which I had copied and when played there was no drums.

Cheers

Bob

Hi Bob,

The learning curve with X2 is huge. There are some great videos out that will get you up and running. Cake TV has some free ones, a search on Youtube brings up some and there a some you can buy in the Cake store and at SWA and Groove 3. Good luck.

Rocky