That's right, I use my RME Babyface for the "soundcard". It has none, no RealTek which they quit putting in some computers (maybe to cut costs) and no video card either. I had both of them, so finally I could buy a computer with nothing in it, and put in what I already have. And I was looking for a Windows 7 computer instead of a Windows 8 computer which they only had and this was one of the last ones with Windows 7 and was a Open Item. I bought it anyway, as I waited too long and they switched to Windows 8 quickly. About every other computer had Windows 8 on it already, I looked at it, and said ah "No". Afterall my old computer with XP works fine yet, so I was going to wait, but decided I could not anymore after finding out about Windows 8 and how I don't want it. Some may want that but already they are coming out with Windows Blue which is going to be Windows 8.1. Actually I don't care so I did not want to buy Windows 7 separate and add more to the cost of a computer. The other place I looked where I would usually buy the computer stated that since Oct. 26, their computers would have Windows 8 on them also. Just waited too long and found this cheap computer and said "Ah". Afterall if I need it I have a pretty new power supply in my old computer I can change out (and the old power suppy for the old computer yet), and had the video card newer and the audio/interface I use for everything anyway, and it works great, the RME Babyface that is.