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bobguitkillerleft

Maybe a dead horse,but WHEN IS WAVES GOING TO lose VST 2.4????


I just spent a REAL lot[for me] on various bundles/deals,that a year ago at full price,would have been nearly 2K,so I'm pretty anxious if X2 is not going to let these rather expensive pictures of knobs dials,and sound shaping doo dads operate,especially if IT's GOING TO BE SOON!
Bob

Sonar will continue to support the Waves plugins you purchased for many years to come. IF, and I say IF, Waves discontinues creating VST2.4 compatible plugins it will have no effect on you unless you upgrade to those newer plugins in the future. The plugins you already purchased are good to go for now and the future.
 
There are a few features Sonar does not support in respect to the Waves plugins (you can't sidechain or use the Waves Surround Tools) but if this hasn't really impacted you yet it likely won't.
 
Cheers.

THANK YOU!,I was freaking due to"a perhaps misunderstood"statement from "cclarry" where he said the NEXT Waves update,will only support VST3 and support[which I may confuse to mean "Won't work anymore"]for VST 2.4 will be no more,but if you say what your saying "they will continue work" well,all is cool!
Cheers
Bob

bigboi


i think the fact that it is getting so many hits and getting so long might say something.

yeah it says that people are dense and dont understand that vst3 is really more of a political move from Steinberg.  lol
 
plug in makers practically revolted against it.  They correctly smelled the rat. 
 
BTW--its not a standard if its not universally adopted.  When and IF it is,  I'm sure Cakewalk will include it.  :)
 
 

mandrake

bigboi


i think the fact that it is getting so many hits and getting so long might say something.

yeah it says that people are dense and dont understand that vst3 is really more of a political move from Steinberg.  lol
 
plug in makers practically revolted against it.  They correctly smelled the rat. 
 
BTW--its not a standard if its not universally adopted.  When and IF it is,  I'm sure Cakewalk will include it.  :)
 
 

By people you mean,a guitar playin fool like me,gee thanks dude,nice entry to the community :[

bobguitkillerleft

 

By people you mean,a guitar playin fool like me,gee thanks dude,nice entry to the community :[

I didnt actually read ur posts.    But now that I did you had a good question, though Noel already answered it earlier.  I was just speculating as to why this thread keept going.  In other words,  I dont think its because of a huge need or demand for vst3, as was sort of implied by who I quoted.  I tried to make a joke.  I'll grant you keyboard players (like me) are not known for being funny.   No offense intended.  Anyway, I thought guitar players where more thick skinned.  Or is that drummers?  I dont know.  I play bass and keys so what does that make me?  believe me, I'm even more dense on some things. Like audio snap..I never could figure that out! lol 
 

mandrake

bobguitkillerleft

 

By people you mean,a guitar playin fool like me,gee thanks dude,nice entry to the community :[

I didnt actually read ur posts.    But now that I did you had a good question, though Noel already answered it earlier.  I was just speculating as to why this thread keept going.  In other words,  I dont think its because of a huge need or demand for vst3, as was sort of implied by who I quoted.  I tried to make a joke.  I'll grant you keyboard players (like me) are not known for being funny.   No offense intended.  Anyway, I thought guitar players where more thick skinned.  Or is that drummers?  I dont know.  I play bass and keys so what does that make me?  believe me, I'm even more dense on some things. Like audio snap..I never could figure that out! lol 
 

Thanks,I just opened the forum up and saw"dense",and of course in my overtly"self obsessed modern way"thought you mean't me[as I was pretty dumb in interpreting the whole thing,and I'm STILL not 100% on the concept of"will not support" and using Waves license manager to go from my laptop to desktop,where I'm sure one MUST use the latest update?],and maybe thats why I gave music away for 20 or so years cause I wasn't "Thick Skinned" enough?.....distinct possibility,thinking back.

So I'm sorry for my morning looniness 11.03am Monday 10th Sept.


Cheers
Bob

@mandrake....i did not hack into the site and up the thread views.  people are interested.

FWIW I just find it a fun read. Not unlike the Staff View thread. I do not think one can infer much from the hit count. It is like trying to read some meaning in a persons post count.

The benefits of 2.4 vs 3 may be debatable... so may the fact that Steinberg threw 3 out there to gain something.

But IF Waves and other companies go the 3 route, then this is a mute debate. I get a chuckle out of people that keep repeating proudly on this thread their solution: THEY are doing just fine without these plugs so you should too... (why didn't I think of that - limiting my creativity, what a fantastic workaround)

I think whoever pointed to the VHS vs. Betamax example had it right. At the end of the day what the programmers, fanoboys or opponents have to say may be irrelevant... If Noel knows that this leap won't happen, or that when it will happen Sonar will be ON IT, then it's all good with me.

But if it does and I'm sitting around for weeks or months waiting for it or dealing with buggy quick fix implementations I will be a VERY unhappy camper... I still remember when VST implementation was new in Sonar etc...

IF the leap to VsT3 exclusive plugs happens and Sonar is dragging their feet I'll have to switch to my ProTools crap (maybe the new 11). I can have a programmer draw me a diagram as to why 2.4 is just as good or better than 3 - but it's not going to matter at all a that point - I need my fully functional tools (not semi). It also wouldn't help if somebody tells me that then can make music with a rubber band and a match stick :) Good for them - I still need my fully functional tools.

In all fairness I have to give CW the benefit of the doubt. Sometimes these guys come up with INCREDIBLE stuff... but sometimes they miss the very obvious (eg: ability to organize - drag/drop - synths in the syth view - or to set grid view to smaller than full measure in track view)

what are we really missing with vst 3 ?
a handful of waves plug ins ?
its really not a big deal as far as im concerned.
i can live without it.
now by the next version of sonar im sure we will see it but thats only if it takes off.
its still relitively new.
i know its been around awhile but i dont see the major benifit.

firefly9000


The benefits of 2.4 vs 3 may be debatable... so may the fact that Steinberg threw 3 out there to gain something.

But IF Waves and other companies go the 3 route, then this is a mute debate. I get a chuckle out of people that keep repeating proudly on this thread their solution: THEY are doing just fine without these plugs so you should too... (why didn't I think of that - limiting my creativity, what a fantastic workaround) 

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chuckebaby


what are we really missing with vst 3 ?
a handful of waves plug ins ?
its really not a big deal as far as im concerned.
i can live without it.

*sigh*