I think a mentality by some members of "we dont have it so we dont need it" or worse "i dont need it so you dont need it" is really quite depressing... are you listening to yourselves arguing against progress?..

There are in fact, plenty of things in Sonar alone i do not need.. (say staff view or matrix view).. should i now lobby to take them out?.. or indicate that it must be users skill at fault because those functions do not work correctly? ..no of course not..that would be absurd...

So to those members i say get a grip.. it is far better to have something than not to have it, and that is why sonar is a package.. and that is why the functionality grows and enhances at every release.

and p.s. in addition to long lists of vst3 supported items above.. there are also things that are VST3 ONLY... such as one of my synths.

VST 3 never be new standard till Universal Audio jumps on it and they still working on 64 bit versions of their plugins so it never be that soon. I dont understand why someone think that Melodyne need to be included in X2, dont you forget that Sonar has V-Vocal, damn good pitch corrector?

Mystic38


I think a mentality by some members of "we dont have it so we dont need it" or worse "i dont need it so you dont need it" is really quite depressing... are you listening to yourselves arguing against progress?..

Agree 100%.  I'm very often annoyed by some of the attitudes here for this very reason.

" VST 3 never be new standard till Universal Audio jumps on it and they still working on 64 bit versions of their plugins so it never be that soon. I dont understand why someone think that Melodyne need to be included in X2, dont you forget that Sonar has V-Vocal, damn good pitch corrector?". Couse few read the manual and use VVocal with all its power.

All software progresses and whether you like the new specs or not plugins will soon be written for VST3 leaving VST2.x behind. It is already happening, and will continue to become a bigger problem. Plugin writers are not going to move backwards.

About 8 months ago I bought a new DAW for the VST3 capability. That has become my primary DAW, but X2 got my attention since I am a long time Cake user. Unfortunately - without VST3 it isn't even worth the $99 upgrade price for me (note the words, "FOR ME") as I will never use it!

For those of you that don't think you need VST3! Do yourself a big favour, and don't buy any 3rd party plugins until you fully understand the requirements. Make sure the 2.x version of that plugin has full functionality as advertised. More and more you will find the "advertised features" will only work with VST3.

No VST3.. no money from me. 

X2 looked really good, but with horrible customer support and prioritizing stupid bundling instead of price and innovation, i don't think i'll ever come back to Sonar. And the Early adopter e-mail i got.. Buy Sonar X2 now (that does not support what you need) and get this crappy String library that uses Dimension Pro...  i LOL'ed. Seriously, trying to buy me off with a terrible string library for one of the worst samplers i have ever used.. good luck with that.

Until VST3 comes, i will be in the competitors ringside, or should i say ringsides.. as most of the competition support it now, and has been for a while.

Sorry for the rant good people, but i have to voice my dissatisfaction with Cake on this matter. ^^

True, but its not going to happened today,in month and I think in year. I am sure when VST3 will be standard, it will be supported by Sonar. All pro companies making VST2/VST3 combo. Vocalign not, but I think it is kind of anti piracy right now :)

Blogman


No vst3 support in X2.....bummer!!!

+1 + 10 0000 more users...

The REAL winners in the DAW market are the ones that
offer ALL THE CURRENT TECHNOLOGIES ...

AND

That bring other GREAT new things to the table...

If Sonar did THIS....it would probably be knocking down
the competition RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE...

Instead...they choose to leave behind CURRENT industry standards
in favor of other minor benefits and new plugins, which can STILL
be purchased separately, in their full forms...

THESE are the things that the Industry "Critics" at all of the
Industry Publications "CRITIC"

Like I said...rest assured...they'll take a beating on it...
regardless of how GREAT X2 may be....

Personally

I LOVE MY X1....I'm sure I will LOVE MY X2

But, keeping in step with current technologies certainly wouldn't do them any harm
and probably would do them a WHOLE LOT OF GOOD...

But,

WHAT DO I KNOW?

Cheers!

anotherzen


No VST3.. no money from me. 

X2 looked really good, but with horrible customer support and prioritizing stupid bundling instead of price and innovation, i don't think i'll ever come back to Sonar. And the Early adopter e-mail i got.. Buy Sonar X2 now (that does not support what you need) and get this crappy String library that uses Dimension Pro...  i LOL'ed. Seriously, trying to buy me off with a terrible string library for one of the worst samplers i have ever used.. good luck with that.

Until VST3 comes, i will be in the competitors ringside, or should i say ringsides.. as most of the competition support it now, and has been for a while.

Sorry for the rant good people, but i have to voice my dissatisfaction with Cake on this matter. ^^

Yes, I don't think you are alone. "Many" don't understand WHY they don't add VST3 support? As for now, SONAR is the only program on the market that don't support VST3?
Too bad, rest is up to date except for VST..?