• SONAR
  • This just in .... X2 DOES NOT SUPPORT VST3 ..per Robin (p.7)
2012/09/06 10:14:59
Mystic38
cclarry


I've still got my fingers crossed that they

HEED THE PIPER

and when they release the Win 8 patch they include VST 3

but I'm NOT going to hold my breath...

Cheers!


+1 ..fingers crossed and hoping...
2012/09/06 10:17:34
BluerecordingStudios
This statement is about 64 bit, UAD is last set of plugins that are not 64 bit yet!!!! Sonar was the first 64 bit DAW years ago and only Sonitus plugins can do 64 double precision. So what, I dont blame UAD that they are not 64 bit native, they working on it.
2012/09/06 10:17:54
KPerry
Not seeing VST3 mentioned in that press release at all.
2012/09/06 10:23:52
cclarry
Noel,

If the VST3 implementation is "of such low importance" to Cakewalk...

THEN WHY HAS EVERY OTHER MAJOR DAW AND PLUG IN MANUFACTURER
(except NO TOOLS- RTAS) adpoted it and chosen to implement it...even without
a MAJOR release???

I'm really just curious...

Just becaue Cakewalk doesn't deem it important doesn't make it NOT IMPORTANT...

WOW...how CRAZY is that....???"

I'm happy to know it's in the pipeline...but, as always, Cake has FAILED to make
a pre-empitive strike at CURRENT technologies for the sake of their users...
instead choosing to focus and give us MORE feature improvements that have been
available in other DAWS for awhile....while touting their massive benefits...
and overshadowing the NEED, addressed by an INDUSTRY STANDARD API,
to implement such protocol in their software???

Why is it that ALL MANUFACTURERS, BUSINESSES, etc....play POLITICS...
and instead of saying...OOOPS...we'll fix it...
they play politics and say....

PAY NOT ATTENTION TO THAT MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!!

INSTEAD....LOOK OVER HEAR....

Blah...

Love the SOFTWARE...HATE THE BS...

Cheers!
2012/09/06 10:25:49
bobguitkillerleft
Freddie H


Around this time each year, we tend to reflect on the past, and look forward to the future. 2011 has been a particularly good year for Universal Audio and the UAD platform, with the introduction of the UAD-2 Satellite and some exceptional new plug-ins. This year also marks the 10th anniversary for the UAD platform — a milestone we could not have achieved without your support.

Since we introduced the UAD DSP Accelerators in 2001, we've grown from just a few hundred users, to more than 45,000 owners worldwide. Over the past decade, we've introduced powerful new UAD hardware, as well as more than 50 new plug-ins, including groundbreaking titles with Ampex, EMT, Lexicon, Manley, Neve, SSL, Studer, and more.

Importantly, the high quality of these UAD products is directly related to your support — which literally funds the development of what we believe are the best audio processors in the world. Without this support, we would not be able to spend six months, nine months, or up to a full year developing our highly complex individual plug-in titles.

So for that, we sincerely thank you.

Looking forward, one increasingly common request is for UAD plug-ins to become fully 64-bit compliant. Rest assured, the UAD plug-in transition to 64-bit architecture will be completed in 2012.

Importantly, this 64-bit compatibility will come at no cost to our users. You have chosen to support us, and we will support you as audio processing standards evolve.

Again, thank you for using UAD Powered Plug-Ins. And please know that the best is yet to come.

Sincerely,

Bill Putnam Jr.
Founder
Universal Audio Inc


Very nice anouncement from Bill[???Freddie?],so I guess its all cool if Noel said it will happen?[I missed THAT completely]....phew panicked for a minute or 5,so VST3 support will eventually happen then?,I'AM worried about waves "not working" soon though[especially as they're ALL I'm using lately-sorry but the PC2a is not quite the CLA2A or 3A but close-sish....sort of?]


These late night posts,always become embarrassing!
Bob
2012/09/06 10:35:24
BluerecordingStudios
PC2A not been CLA2A???? Are you kidding? PC2A is by far best LA2A emu out there...
2012/09/06 10:35:51
Jim Roseberry
I cannot integrate my $2200 synthesizer with VST as the editor is written solely for VST3..



Guess why Yamaha required VST3 support for the Motif Editor...  
Might have something to do with wanting to tie you into using Cubase (which was the only app that supported VST3 when the editor was originally released)... and just happens to be owned by Yamaha.

Korg managed to make a M3 VSTi editor that works just fine under VST2.4 spec
BTW, There's a 3rd party Motif Editor that blows away the VSTi version.  

The list of VST3 features posted (copied/pasted from Steinberg) above gets a little silly.
VST3 necessary for plugins processing at 64Bit resolution???  Not hardly...

With all the potential ways to spend time/resources, the Bakers have to prioritize what will benefit the largest segment of their user base.  Based on what Noel explained (and has numerous times), it's clear that VST3 support in-and-of-itself would offer little direct benefit vs. what could be done with VST2.4. This is why it hasn't been a top priority.

FWIW, my Motif works just fine with Sonar and the 3rd party editor.  



2012/09/06 10:44:39
bobguitkillerleft
BluerecordingStudios


PC2A not been CLA2A???? Are you kidding? PC2A is by far best LA2A emu out there...

Man I wouldn't know a real LA2A if I fell over one,I just meant I like using the Waves 2A/3A more,or have more success than I do with the PC2A[though I still use and like it for sure],thats all.
Bob
2012/09/06 10:50:31
cclarry
BluerecordingStudios


PC2A not been CLA2A???? Are you kidding? PC2A is by far best LA2A emu out there...


I think this statement would be HIGHLY debated...
2012/09/06 11:05:42
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
cclarry


Noel,

If the VST3 implementation is "of such low importance" to Cakewalk...

THEN WHY HAS EVERY OTHER MAJOR DAW AND PLUG IN MANUFACTURER
(except NO TOOLS- RTAS) adpoted it and chosen to implement it...even without
a MAJOR release???

I'm really just curious...

Just becaue Cakewalk doesn't deem it important doesn't make it NOT IMPORTANT...

WOW...how CRAZY is that....???"

I'm happy to know it's in the pipeline...but, as always, Cake has FAILED to make
a pre-empitive strike at CURRENT technologies for the sake of their users...
instead choosing to focus and give us MORE feature improvements that have been
available in other DAWS for awhile....while touting their massive benefits...
and overshadowing the NEED, addressed by an INDUSTRY STANDARD API,
to implement such protocol in their software???

Why is it that ALL MANUFACTURERS, BUSINESSES, etc....play POLITICS...
and instead of saying...OOOPS...we'll fix it...
they play politics and say....

PAY NOT ATTENTION TO THAT MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!!

INSTEAD....LOOK OVER HEAR....

Blah...

Love the SOFTWARE...HATE THE BS...

Cheers!





>>but, as always, Cake has FAILED to make  pre-empitive strike at CURRENT technologies for the sake of their users... 

As always, really? How about being the first to support X64, supporting every single processor architecture, preemptive support for every version of Windows to name just a few. VST3 being lower importance not arbitrarily decided, as I outlined in my message. There are plenty of things we did in X2 that were way higher in the feature list that the vast majority of users would benefit from before VST3. We do features in response to the volume of customer requests. VST3 has been way at the bottom of that pile. 

Anyway I've said what I have to say on this topic so there is no point in beating it to death here. It has absolutely nothing to do with politics but everything to do with supporting the most immediate needs of our user base first, and making the best use of our engineering resources.

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