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  • Is SONAR X2 worth the upgrade from SONAR X1?... (p.3)
2013/04/17 09:11:40
icontakt
Paul P


guitartrek : "If you stay in track view a lot, you're gonna like the time line zoom. Just click and drag up / down zoom in or out qucikly, and while you are doing that you can move the mouse left or right to move the whole thing to the left or right. It is very intuitive and makes navigating easier."

Unfortunately, this function is buggy. I'm waiting on X2b to fix it.
Do you think so? It's not as smooth as the same feature in Studio One, but it works fine for me. In fact, it's the very feature that made me upgrade, and I still like it best in X2.

2013/04/17 09:13:54
fooman
X2 seems more stable to me, but take lanes are the only reason I'm not using X2 and it's collecting digital dust 95% of the time.
I've only used it to finish up a project that X1 wasn't playing nice with.

Also, it's probably due to habit of workflow, I prefer X1's automation.  After finishing 4 or 5 mixes in X2 and seeing how that automation works, I find X1 to be much quick for me.  I don't have to really worry about what tracks selected when changing a section of automation on a track.  Can't count how many times I saw the hover-state say "- INF" cause I had the wrong track selected when doing a quick automation change in X2.
2013/04/17 09:48:58
mettelus
I would recommend X2a. You can still run X1 (I recommend leaving it installed), since they run independently. I have not had issues since X2a came out, and love a few of the new feature (auto cursor, auto track zoom, R-Mix (LOVE this!!), and take lanes). It has even more, but even for what R-MIX does, I would have bought X2.
2013/04/17 17:59:48
stevec
...the selection bar for moving clips around, rather than selecting clips by their center mass.

 
I believe there's a preference to turn that behavior on and off.
 
And just to echo the crowd - it's definitely X2 for me.  The Automation Lanes option, Timeline and Auto Track Zoom, FX Chains in Pro Channel, Console Emulator, minor changes (improvements IMO) to PRV selection behavior, etc, etc.   And for me, X2a is about as solid as X1D was , but somehow looks and feels just a little better.  It's hard to quantify that last one, but it is what it is. 
 
I would definitely download the demo and run them side by side to get a better feel for how it might work for you, on your system.
 
2013/04/17 21:12:24
Paul P
Jlien X, re ruler zoom/scroll : "Do you think so? It's not as smooth as the same feature in Studio One, but it works fine for me. In fact, it's the very feature that made me upgrade, and I still like it best in X2. "

If, while holding down the mouse button, I move up and down it zooms in and out ok.

If I go left to right all manner of wrong scroll movements happen. It's basically useless for horizontal scrolling.

I'm used to Kinetic which had this ten years ago (it was at the bottom of the pane) and it worked properly.

I find it strange that you say yours works ok.



2013/04/18 00:07:06
KyRo
Can you still record takes in the same manner as in X1, i.e. setting a loop area and recording over and over, each time applying automatically to a new layer (now "take lane")?
2013/04/18 04:35:46
jb101
dimelives1


Can you still record takes in the same manner as in X1, i.e. setting a loop area and recording over and over, each time applying automatically to a new layer (now "take lane")?
Yes.
 
I find it easier with the new lanes, but some people seem to struggle.  I like the lanes a lot.  I find comping with the isolation tool a breeze.  You really need to read up/watch videos to learn how to use them, though.
 
As has been suggested, download the trail and see what you think.  You will get two hugely opposing views on here about lanes, so only you can decide if you like them.
2013/04/18 08:04:01
icontakt
Paul P


Jlien X, re ruler zoom/scroll : "Do you think so? It's not as smooth as the same feature in Studio One, but it works fine for me. In fact, it's the very feature that made me upgrade, and I still like it best in X2. "

If, while holding down the mouse button, I move up and down it zooms in and out ok.

If I go left to right all manner of wrong scroll movements happen. It's basically useless for horizontal scrolling.

I'm used to Kinetic which had this ten years ago (it was at the bottom of the pane) and it worked properly.

I find it strange that you say yours works ok.


Strange indeed, because I really don't see the problem you mentioned. The horizontal move while left-clicking the time ruler works beautifully in both TV and PRV.

Have you seen this video? Fast foward to 2:30. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw5z9BKWD-I

The only issue I've found about timeline zoom is that the vertical zoom (dragging up/down on the time ruler while right-clicking) doesn't work in the drum grid pane.
2013/04/18 08:12:39
Paul P
Jlien X, in the video, the user only makes very small movements of the mouse in the ruler and that works ok for me as well. Things screw up when I make large movements especially when hitting the left side of the pane, in which case scrolling is immediately messed up.







2013/04/18 08:24:05
icontakt
Hmm....I've just spent a few minutes making very large movements, hitting the left side of the pane, at different sections of the project, but I don't see any serious problem (it behaves a little awkward once in a while, but it's definitely not a mess-up).
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