• SONAR
  • TECHNICAL QUESTION?? (p.2)
2013/04/15 17:22:09
Raskass23
All i know is when im done recording, and im ready to listen to it or upload it, it makes me go up and click midi...Then another bar appears under my vocals and instrumental....Thats the only way my tracks will play on anything else other than the program im using. Like i said, i will upload pictures or something later.
2013/04/15 20:34:35
Raskass23
Alright at the top of the sonar x1 Le screen it said file,edit,view and insert...When you click on insert it says MIDI....When i want to export a track i have to click on the midi in order for my audio to be exported so i can upload it to sound cloud or listen to it on windows media player!
2013/04/15 23:02:25
Raskass23
https://soundcloud.com/yo...kking/complex-thoughts here is an example of what my audio sounds like!
2013/04/16 01:54:49
Kalle Rantaaho
Raskass23


Alright at the top of the sonar x1 Le screen it said file,edit,view and insert...When you click on insert it says MIDI....When i want to export a track i have to click on the midi in order for my audio to be exported so i can upload it to sound cloud or listen to it on windows media player!
 
Hmmm, this is not a SONAR problem at all, is it? Do I understand correctly, that the exported wav sounds ok, but you only get
problems when uploading to Soundcloud or converting to other format for video? Your cell-phone most likely does not play wavs (???) either so is this just an MP3 conversion problem, in which the export method used in SONAR is totally irrelevant? What conversion software and bit rate are you using, and how hot is the exported wav? In order to convert to MP3 you must have at least -0,3 dB headroom. The fact alone that Soundcloud packs everything to 128 bps quality causes degradation, unless you upload downloadable files. 
 
But still, that "midi'ing thing" puzzles me, even though it might be something irrelevant. . What makes you do it/where does it read that you have to click Insert>MIDI before exporting?? What are you inserting?
What do you mean by "another bar" that appears under your vocals? Is it just an empty MIDI track? If it is, it has nothing to do with the export procedure. Do you have soft synths in use? Give us a clear view: What kind of tracks do you have in the project and how exactly do you export? What sample rate and bit depth are you using in SONAR?
Or does it really matter... If the exported wavs sound fine, then everything is as it should be.
2013/04/16 04:32:13
Bristol_Jonesey
FILE > EXPORT > AUDIO

End of.

Midi doesn't enter into the equation as all of your soft synth AUDIO will be exported by the above process.
2013/04/16 11:23:05
Raskass23
Alright forget the midi thing...My audio still fluctuates and sounds crappy on youtube and sound cloud or reverbnation....
2013/04/16 14:55:07
Kalle Rantaaho
So what about giving us some info on how you are doing things??
You export the project to wav, and it sounds ok in Windows Media Player? What are the readings in Master Bus level meter when you export (= how "hot" is the wav)?
Then what?


2013/04/16 18:33:27
Raskass23
I really honestly have no clue how to explain it. All i know is ive pretty much tried everything. It cant be my sound card because everything sounds fine, except when i upload. I uploaded wav files,mp3 etc. Something is happening from what i have saved on my pc to when i actually upload the track...When i do record a track on cakewalk my audio for some reason is always more in the left speaker when i play my voice after im done...But my instrumental is always centered in both speakers. I always have to adjust my vocals so they're equal, which i think is odd. When its centered it should be equal! Maybe i just need to try a diffrent recording software.
2013/04/16 21:48:34
RobertB

Or you just need to learn how to work with the software you have.
In your demo clip, your vocals are noticeably left, and all of your instruments are heavily right. There is a hole right up the middle.
Even the Soundcloud waveform reflects a heavy balance of energy to the right. A good part of this is probably the bass. You have a lot of low end energy, and it is kind of muddy.
You need to work on your recording amd mixing techniques. This is not meant as a dig, but to encourage you to buckle down and work on your methods.
How, exactly, are you recording your vocals?
Are you recording to a stereo or mono track? Ideally, it should be mono. Stereo will mess you up right from the start, and you will fight it all the way.
Don't mix with the volume really loud. Your ears will get conditioned, and your speakers/monitors will lie to you. You may have standing waves and nulls in your room that will make the speakers lie. When this happens, you end up with a bad mix that sounds good under specific conditions.
Now, enter the MP3 conversions and the cell phone.
A low bitrate MP3 will trash you sound, especially if the mix is off to start with.
The cell phone is not subject to the acoustics of your room, and may actually be giving you a more accurate rendition of your mix.
To be honest, I hear a mix done by someone who does not yet understand what he is working with. Again, that is not meant as an insult. We all start somewhere. My first mixes were horrible, and didn't translate well at all.
Trying different software is not the answer. At the end of the day, they are all pretty much the same. Learn how to use your tools, read up on techniques, and experiment.
And plan on trashing some projects. It's gonna happen.
Give us details on your equipment, and what you are doing. Be as specific as you can.
We will help as much as we can, but it is important that you provide us accurate information.
Above all, be willing to learn.
2013/04/16 22:29:32
Raskass23
Thanks for the info...Im definitly gonna apply everything you said!!
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