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2016/07/18 01:50:32
craigb
Jarsve





That was fun!  I couldn't figure out how they did the drums though... 
 
I thought that was cool how the guitar goes so low and the bass goes so high that they changed jobs for a measure or two in the middle.
 
I'm now off to find music by Venturia and Adagio!  Viva Le Prog Français? 
 
BTW - I read that Charly gets some help on his high and squealy notes from a custom pick that has metal on its edge.  Interesting.
2016/07/18 06:01:42
kennywtelejazz
craigb
Jarsve





That was fun!  I couldn't figure out how they did the drums though... 
 
I thought that was cool how the guitar goes so low and the bass goes so high that they changed jobs for a measure or two in the middle.
 
I'm now off to find music by Venturia and Adagio!  Viva Le Prog Français? 
 
BTW - I read that Charly gets some help on his high and squealy notes from a custom pick that has metal on its edge.  Interesting.




Those 2 guys are great ....
I have noticed that most of the 8 string guitar videos  I have seen on line feature the players playing to some sort of a backing track too fill the sound out . (when they are not playing with a full on band in the videos )
 
Those guys sure make it look easy ....Yeah I like that pick squeal thing he is doing ...
I grabbed both of those tunes and after messing around with some of the sections they played for a few hours ..
all I can tell you is ...that $hit is hard to play even at half speed .....Whew , those 2 young dudes are certainly in their prime ..
As an Old Fart (me ) currently trying to play just like them 2 players is about the equivalent of me at my age right now trying to arm wrestle Arnold Schwarzenegger when He was Conan

 
Like I said ,  Those guys sure make it look easy ....
 
Oh well , the good news is at least this old dog is learning some new tricks ..Y'all better watch out I'm coming to get you
 
Kenny
 
2016/07/18 11:24:36
craigb
Let me guess... You'll be back? 
2016/07/20 09:59:46
thedukewestern
Congratulations!   
 
15 years ago I worked at a music shop in Syracuse, where my friend had a Schecter Diamond Series C7 on consigment, and he had only used it a few times.  Bookmatched ash - a seriously nice instrument.  One day when I was working these guys came in, 2 of em distracted me while their friend ran off with it.  4 months later, the one guy who was talking to me came back with it, saying he sent his friend to jail and he never felt good about it.  
 
I bought it immediately.
 
It is still with me today.
 
I immediately special ordered a jb and 59 7 string version of pickups for it from seymour duncan.
 
As far as getting used to it, I used to play it like a 6 string with an added friend, but I soon tired of that mentality and started forcing myself to extend all of my scale and chord routines to include the extra range of a low b.  Soon, I was sloppy on a 6!  
 
This experience pushed me to look at the guitar differently than I did, and ultimately music.  
2016/07/20 15:31:33
ØSkald
i guess you can easily make a metal plate for the pick. it doesn't need to cover the whole side, just a cm. something you could take of old and put on new. i'm going to dig into it.
2016/07/20 15:42:09
ØSkald

2016/07/21 14:23:23
kennywtelejazz
craigb
Let me guess... You'll be back? 




Yes. it 's true ... I'll be back ...that is once I come out of hiding
 
 
thedukewestern
Congratulations!   
 
15 years ago I worked at a music shop in Syracuse, where my friend had a Schecter Diamond Series C7 on consigment, and he had only used it a few times.  Bookmatched ash - a seriously nice instrument.  One day when I was working these guys came in, 2 of em distracted me while their friend ran off with it.  4 months later, the one guy who was talking to me came back with it, saying he sent his friend to jail and he never felt good about it.  
 
I bought it immediately.
 
It is still with me today.
 
I immediately special ordered a jb and 59 7 string version of pickups for it from seymour duncan.
 
As far as getting used to it, I used to play it like a 6 string with an added friend, but I soon tired of that mentality and started forcing myself to extend all of my scale and chord routines to include the extra range of a low b.  Soon, I was sloppy on a 6!  
 
This experience pushed me to look at the guitar differently than I did, and ultimately music.  




thedukewestern
 
WOW what a cool story with a happy ending .
 
 
I'm glad you wound up getting that guitar . I'm sure your 7 string  guitar is happy you got it too .
 
I certainly enjoyed playing the 7 string .
Yet, The 7 string had me saying to myself that I wanted to get more of the piano type of low range in my chord voices  .
I'm very happy I was able to get an 8 string guitar that was in my price range ....
 
My musical time and goals have always been about spending time on learning music and how it applies to being able to play it on the guitars fingerboard ...
The coolest thing I love about the 8 string is that I'm able to apply and hear much of what my actual true foundation in music is while doing my best to play it on the guitar .... the extended rage has allowed me too play things in real time that I would have had to double track . To me that is important because I can find chord voices I would have never found on a 6 or 7 string ...
It's all coming together faster than I would have guessed and it seems too be working out for me so far ....
thank you for the kind words
 
Jarsve
i guess you can easily make a metal plate for the pick. it doesn't need to cover the whole side, just a cm. something you could take of old and put on new. i'm going to dig into it.


 
Jarsve
Let us know how it comes along ....there may be a few customers here in this thread
Oh BTW , that's a nice pic shot of the plectrum ....
 
all the best,
 
Kenny
 
 
 
 
 
2016/07/21 23:32:20
tomixornot
kennywtelejazz
The Guitar I got is an entry level Schecter C-8 Deluxe just like this one in the stock photo .
Overall , I'm surprised how good it is in general and when I factor in the price I got it for I'm very pleased .

Man , I'm really digging it so far,even though I'm hitting some really major Hey Man I'm fricking lost all the time on this neck with all the fretboard fingering collisions 
 
all the best ,
 
Kenny




Congrats Kenny !
 
I've got my 9 strings Ibanez RG9 about 9 months ago and loving it, comes with a huge learning curve too! My picking hand kept telling me the string gab is smaller compared to the regular 6 strings till I have to measure it.. which is not! That puts me back to practicing it more 
 
Always wanted to compare the Schecter C-x series with the RG9 but my local supplier would not want to bring in unless I'm willing to buy it.
 
I'm using the factory tuning : 1st to 9th ( E/B/G/D/A/E/B/F#/C# ) but changed the gauge to suite my finger style playing :
 
1 - 6  : 11 - 54 (Ernie Ball Beefy Slinry pack)
7,8 and 9 : Regular bass strings - 65, 80 and 100 (4-strings pack, not using the '45' string).
 

2016/07/23 08:10:12
kennywtelejazz
tomixornot
kennywtelejazz
The Guitar I got is an entry level Schecter C-8 Deluxe just like this one in the stock photo .
Overall , I'm surprised how good it is in general and when I factor in the price I got it for I'm very pleased .

Man , I'm really digging it so far,even though I'm hitting some really major Hey Man I'm fricking lost all the time on this neck with all the fretboard fingering collisions 
 
all the best ,
 
Kenny




Congrats Kenny !
 
I've got my 9 strings Ibanez RG9 about 9 months ago and loving it, comes with a huge learning curve too! My picking hand kept telling me the string gab is smaller compared to the regular 6 strings till I have to measure it.. which is not! That puts me back to practicing it more 
 
Always wanted to compare the Schecter C-x series with the RG9 but my local supplier would not want to bring in unless I'm willing to buy it.
 
I'm using the factory tuning : 1st to 9th ( E/B/G/D/A/E/B/F#/C# ) but changed the gauge to suite my finger style playing :
 
1 - 6  : 11 - 54 (Ernie Ball Beefy Slinry pack)
7,8 and 9 : Regular bass strings - 65, 80 and 100 (4-strings pack, not using the '45' string).
 





Hi Albert,
 
It sounds too me that you have a pretty Awesome guitar there . Yeah , 9 stings Wow ....congrats
One of these days I will have to sit down and cop a feel on a 9 string guitar . I would be able to know pretty fast if getting myself a 9 string would be a good future move or not ...
Having the Low F# on the 8 string is pretty good useful range . I do miss the Low E since I'm tuned to an 8 string  typical tuning ...
I need to keep it there so I can stay consistent in my learning and playing , Everything I learn and play in one key gets put through a few keys regardless of how soon I have played it ...
If I can play it clean after figuring in out in 5 min's , in about 20 min's I will play the idea or riff in at least 4 or 5 different Keys ....or chromatically .....
That approach is something I have been doing for many years  regardless of what type of guitar I'm playing ...
I doesn't matter that I may only have it down correctly in only a few Keys and that I may soon forget how to finger the parts with fluency and correct fret board habits  in other keys ...
What matters to me is that I can soon catch up with my familiarity of being able to express musical Ideas  and I have multiplied an idea I can play in numerous keys ...
 
 
Right about now I'm sure someone who  may be reading this may be asking Why is Kenny going here ?
That would be a logical question to ask .....I'm going there for a couple of reasons ...
 
From what I have seen and heard so far , a lot of these guitar players that have impressive speed and chops on the whole extended range/  school of  guitar playing do indeed have admirable attributes and quality's in their guitar playing .....there is absolutely no doubt about that ....  
 
I mean no disrespect to any of them when I say this ....
I could probably stop 99 % of them dead in their tracks cold with out doing anything more than asking them to play what they have just played in a different Key ..
If the tune was in E , play that $hit in Eb or F for starters and if you can do that at the same tempo cool , then we can go from E to Bb or Ab ....BTW, this is not a rant ..just an observation ...
I want so much more out of my playing and this is the standard I hold my self accountable too   ...
 
thinking about your 9 string and the range ,
Yeah , I would Love the ability too be able to get down to a Low D or Low C ...very usable range of low end in all forms of music 
 
all the best ,
 
Kenny
 
 
2016/07/23 12:26:03
craigb
kennywtelejazz
Right about now I'm sure someone who  may be reading this may be asking Why is Kenny going here ?

 
Actually we're wondering Where not Why. 
 
 
 
Just kidding, I can't wait to have a toy again that I'll enjoy as much as you are with your new guitar! 
 
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