Word to the wise: In X2a, when you bounce to clip, BE SURE you know EXACTLY WHERE Sonar is placing that bounce. I lost an entire session thinking I had backed up all audio clips and bounces, but apparently missed bounces for drums in a session possibly because they were placed in a different directory. That alone just cost me more $$ to re-track than X2 cost.

WHEW! Well, I'm fortunate I still had my trusty off-site backup! I found the original tracks and was able to re-construct the session. X2, you're not taking me down that way!

Whew, close one Brian!  Glad it worked out.

brconflict


Word to the wise: In X2a, when you bounce to clip, BE SURE you know EXACTLY WHERE Sonar is placing that bounce. I lost an entire session thinking I had backed up all audio clips and bounces, but apparently missed bounces for drums in a session possibly because they were placed in a different directory. That alone just cost me more $$ to re-track than X2 cost.

I humbly admit I don't understand at all what you mean? 
How on earth could SONAR save a bounced/combined clip to anywhere else than in the cwp-file  and the Project Audio Folder? If audio is being rendered, like applying FX, I assume a new audio clip gets created in the audio folder (?), but if you just bounce to clips to combine the clips, it might well be only the info about the combining gets saved in the cwp-file ( no new audio file added in the Project Audio Folder).  I understand that you back up the project, or the Project Audio Folder and the cwp-file, but I don't undestand at all what you mean by "backing up bounces"..


You are using "Per Project Audio Folders", aren't you?

My bounce defaults to the same project and creates a new track in that project. I would have to specify a different location and forget the new location to lose it.... but the search function in windows would find it if it's on the computer. 

I do agree it is always a good idea to double check where the bounce or EXPORT is heading to.  

Bounce should always end up in the existing project by default..... an EXPORT is totally different and it is possible to misplace an export if you're not paying attention.... but it's easy to find it once you realise you can't find it where you think it should have been. 

I have exported a few times and didn't specify the folder.... but that is a quick find. Simply redo the bounce without changing any setting and observe the "default location" it is using. 

It will probably be in a temporary files folder under the logged in user's name. 

I always try to place a new folder with all the files connected to a project in my working folder for music. That makes it easy to find the song, the project and any other files connected to it like lyric sheets and note files.

If I remember right (probably don't) but when bouncing doesn't SONAR prompt for a folder?  Or this that just when you export audio.

I don't bounce at all, do everything in REAL TIME (I have a pretty killer system) so it has been awhile since I bounced audio.  Usually just keep my audio tracks as part of the project and let SONAR do the rest.

Jim

Unless everything is new in X-line (in that case ignore):

When you bounce to tracks, you're prompted the target track, and you're never prompted any folder anywhere, but one of the tracks in the project.
When you bounce to clips  you select the clip to be rendered and/or clips to be combined, and as default the bounce target is the track that includes the clip. Clip bounce never "vanishes" into any folder outside the track view.
How can you lose audio files by bouncing to clip, as the OP describes, or bouncing to tracks?

What means "backing up bounces"? I still don't have any idea what the issue described here is.

Kalle Rantaaho


Unless everything is new in X-line (in that case ignore):

When you bounce to tracks, you're prompted the target track, and you're never prompted any folder anywhere, but one of the tracks in the project.
When you bounce to clips  you select the clip to be rendered and/or clips to be combined, and as default the bounce target is the track that includes the clip. Clip bounce never "vanishes" into any folder outside the track view.
How can you lose audio files by bouncing to clip, as the OP describes, or bouncing to tracks?

What means "backing up bounces"? I still don't have any idea what the issue described here is.

I couldn't figure out what the OP did. Or what was being cautioned against. I do know that in the many years this forum has been around this is the first time I have seen this kind of post. That does not mean that the OP is wrong just it has never been posted about before that I can recall. 

Bad things can happen that is a given yet I have no idea what is being reported about. If it is a bounce problem it will be the first one I am aware of. 

A detailed list of every action taken by the OP may clear this up. 

I, too, am not sure what the OP is saying, and would be grateful if he would post back with more information.  I cannot see how "Bouncing to clip" can cause his problems, but maybe we are not understanding his problem.
 
"That alone just cost me more $$ to re-track than X2 cost" puzzles me.  I have never lost audio through bouncing, so would love to know how this could have happened.
 
The OP has posted before with thread title's about bugs that turned out to be user error, or a misunderstanding about what a particular function of Sonar actually does, and has not re-posted after this was pointed out.  Let's hope this thread will be different, and he can clarify his issues.
 
I guess he was using Steve Gadd  if it cost that much to re-track.

Bounce to Clip will ALWAYS render the bounced information to the same track - you don't have a choice!

Bounce to Track is different and can sometimes catch the unwary.

But the initial post is confusing and does need clarifying. The thread title refers to Bounce to Track, but in his first sentence he talks about Bounce to Clip.

No sage advice can be given until we know exactly what he's trying to do.