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Grem
Studio One might be slick and stable but for the most part, so is Sonar and I already know how to use it. 

Yeah, I hear you ... that will work for now but eventually Sonar will stop working, or at at least become increasingly unstable as the years go by and Windows updates roll in. 

Not if you disable Windows updates 

bitmanAhh, the next stage. rationalism.

 
So, is rationalism Denial or Bargaining? Because we need to know which stage of grief we are at. 

 

Finally, after years of updates and new "documentation" to read every month, I can finally catch up with, and learn, all the intricacies of Sonar. No, this has been a blessing in disguise. 

 
This is what I have said over and over- Won't it be nice to just stop mucking about with updates and sit back and just enjoy the ride in the veihicle we own and have paid for?  There is so much I havn't learned about Sonar and now I can dig in deeper as time goes by. The last thing I'm in the mood for right now is to spend another 6? months getting proficient with another DAW. 
 
Why do people keep saying- Sonar will stop working???  I and many people here have copies of Sonar going back more than 10 years and they still work. So what is so different about Sonar Splat that you think it will stop working. Sure until we have that magic activation code we might not be able to install it down the road, but the version you have can be installed on multiple computers and will work until that computer dies and not one day sooner.
 
There's another misconception that when the servers die Sonar will stop working. Just to proove this wrong I just installed Sonar on a new machine using the Downloaded installer from my products page and off line activation. I did not need CCC. 
It will still be on this machine and running until this machine dies of old age. Please note the LEGAL and the Valid until infinity 
 

 
 

Cactus Music
Finally, after years of updates and new "documentation" to read every month, I can finally catch up with, and learn, all the intricacies of Sonar. No, this has been a blessing in disguise. 

 
This is what I have said over and over- Won't it be nice to just stop mucking about with updates and sit back and just enjoy the ride in the veihicle we own and have paid for?  There is so much I havn't learned about Sonar and now I can dig in deeper as time goes by. The last thing I'm in the mood for right now is to spend another 6? months getting proficient with another DAW. 
 
Why do people keep saying- Sonar will stop working???  I and many people here have copies of Sonar going back more than 10 years and they still work. So what is so different about Sonar Splat that you think it will stop working. Sure until we have that magic activation code we might not be able to install it down the road, but the version you have can be installed on multiple computers and will work until that computer dies and not one day sooner.
 
There's another misconception that when the servers die Sonar will stop working. Just to proove this wrong I just installed Sonar on a new machine using the Downloaded installer from my products page and off line activation. I did not need CCC. 
It will still be on this machine and running until this machine dies of old age. Please note the LEGAL and the Valid until infinity 

 
Exactly! I recently redid a friend's computer that was 9 years old, Athlon II X2, put in an SSD, 4GB RAM and installed Windows 10 with the Sonar 5 he was using, worked like a champ with the Echo Gina 3G he had. Sonar 5 is more than 10 years old!
 
Remember, when you follow Microsoft's rules regarding proper programming, you get rewarded in the long run with very long-lived compatibility, and thankfully the guys at Cakewalk were very aware and respectful of those rules. I expect we'll be able to run Sonar Platinum in its current form for many years to come.
 
And the kicker is: it's already SO much more than I ever dreamed of having in MY studio. Even if I never get another VST(i) I'll have more to explore than I will in my lifetime. Like a good instrument, this Sonar of ours is just a wonderful tool. I will keep exploring other means of music production, I own Ableton Live and use it for some things, but for now and the foreseeable future, I will keep Sonar as my main recording, mixing, mastering environment!
 
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subtlearts
 
I know there are valid reasons to make a change now preemptively, I've read many of them and understand most of them. I'm just saying I kind of feel in many ways like this is a refreshing perspective that actually resonates with me at the moment...

Tobias, just a comment here, 
 
My view is that it's over. Get on with it.
 
Then I get the BF upgrade offer and install mess around a bit then....
 
I go to do some work and try to think of how I will proceed. So I have to transfer something to the new program, so I fire Sonar up.  Next thing I know it's several hours later, I am still in Sonar and I am thinking that I have no reason (or intention) of learning a new system.
 
So I guess I am firmly on the fence here!  Thinking:
 
A) I know what I have to do (eventually) so I might as well bite the bullet and get on with it.
 
B) Then the other part of me says why? Work with what ya got!

I'm of the school of thought that A and B are not mutually exclusive. You paid for a product. Get as much use as you can out of it. You may well be able to use it another 10 years. In some ways the lack of updates may lead to a very consistent workflow that increases productivity. In the meantime you can explore options and begin learning them. Even though I have been migrating to S1, I pull up the lite version of ableton and bitwig at least once a week and will dig up Reaper too. I work with Logic regularly as well. Not suggesting you play musivsl DAWS daily but experimenting with options is much more fun when it does not feel pressured and urgent. You theoretically have a few years at least to make a comfortable switch if it comes down to it. For the really dedicated person you could dedicate an offline box to sonar and run for decades. I know of a group that did that back in 1997 and still have old cakewalk running on XP

Even older school...I think of Sir George Martin making how much history with a tiny fraction the recording, mixing and mastering power of what's available in SONAR as is?

I guess if you're trying to keep up with the Joneses then Sonar updates really do matter, but it occurred to me that if you're trying to BE the Joneses then maybe what we have may be all we need.

Radio: The Lincoln brand is in trouble. Why? One dude claims it is because there were too many model changes. So, it lost brand identity. But it is still popular in China.