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  • Isn't it about time for X2b ? (p.3)
2013/04/04 11:29:16
Muziekschuur at home
What is NOT working in X2A? X2A was an amazing update and a great gift to us Cakewalk Sonar customers. As we we are now able to use touch screens. Where that functionality was not there in X2 and not really asked for. We got an awesome bonus and means X2 is quite future proof... So I am not quite grasping where the X2B is needed for?
2013/04/04 11:56:23
brconflict
Muziekschuur at home


What is NOT working in X2A? X2A was an amazing update and a great gift to us Cakewalk Sonar customers. As we we are now able to use touch screens. Where that functionality was not there in X2 and not really asked for. We got an awesome bonus and means X2 is quite future proof... So I am not quite grasping where the X2B is needed for?
I think you may just be one of the fortunate ones that hasn't run into any problems, or probably utilize the power of X2 in other areas more than users like me. If you peruse the forum, you can quickly find people having issues that go unexplained, and the worst thing about many of these issues is that a majority of them aren't always reproduce-able. This means that the bug-submission form Cakewalk requires doesn't really encompass bugs that people find and can't recall the steps, or can't get it to happen again while trying to reproduce such issues.

Like I said, Sonar is VERY powerful in all it can do, and looking at the competition, it still wins me over, even though there's features in others I'd pay money for if they could be brought into Sonar. But all that power quickly is foreshadowed when you run into bugs or issues that Support can't work out or that you can't reliably reproduce.

X2 feels like a solid DAW, but with some new code that drops the ball fast when it breaks. I fear this is exactly what X2b will be like: more features, and less bug fixes. I also fear Take Lanes won't get much love from the bakers, either. But I don't know. They don't indicate anything either way until the next update comes out and I read the "fixed" portion of the Readme. I'm nearly always disappointed by what wasn't addressed. 


2013/04/04 11:57:30
Jackdied
Muziekschuur at home


What is NOT working in X2A? X2A was an amazing update and a great gift to us Cakewalk Sonar customers. As we we are now able to use touch screens. Where that functionality was not there in X2 and not really asked for. We got an awesome bonus and means X2 is quite future proof... So I am not quite grasping where the X2B is needed for?





Ok;

-Better Quicktime video handling - Exporting Quicktime videos on 64Bit
- Arrangement tools (Like Reaper's regions system)

- Colored markers

-Audio pool/project bay ..

-Pitch envelopes for audio clips

- Folder in folder system

-Folder track as a bus 

- Better and dockable track manager

-Detailed performance meter

-Scrolling docked fx windows

-....

plus;

- fixing bugs 





...
2013/04/04 11:59:03
vintagevibe
brconflict


Muziekschuur at home


What is NOT working in X2A? X2A was an amazing update and a great gift to us Cakewalk Sonar customers. As we we are now able to use touch screens. Where that functionality was not there in X2 and not really asked for. We got an awesome bonus and means X2 is quite future proof... So I am not quite grasping where the X2B is needed for?
I think you may just be one of the fortunate ones that hasn't run into any problems, or probably utilize the power of X2 in other areas more than users like me. If you peruse the forum, you can quickly find people having issues that go unexplained, and the worst thing about many of these issues is that a majority of them aren't always reproduce-able. This means that the bug-submission form Cakewalk requires doesn't really encompass bugs that people find and can't recall the steps, or can't get it to happen again while trying to reproduce such issues.

Like I said, Sonar is VERY powerful in all it can do, and looking at the competition, it still wins me over, even though there's features in others I'd pay money for if they could be brought into Sonar. But all that power quickly is foreshadowed when you run into bugs or issues that Support can't work out or that you can't reliably reproduce.

X2 feels like a solid DAW, but with some new code that drops the ball fast when it breaks. I fear this is exactly what X2b will be like: more features, and less bug fixes. I also fear Take Lanes won't get much love from the bakers, either. But I don't know. They don't indicate anything either way until the next update comes out and I read the "fixed" portion of the Readme. I'm nearly always disappointed by what wasn't addressed. 
+1

2013/04/04 12:03:00
fooman
X2a was a pretty darn good update, not cause of touch-screen in my opinion, but for the bug fixes.
X2 is fairly quick compared to X1 after the update to X2a.  X2 had a lot of little bugs that forced me back to X1.  X2a allows me to mix without many bugs.  And all of the bugs I do see are all pretty much one of two plugins that aren't playing nice with X2 (Voxengo or Steven Slate VCC).

I still don't track in X2 due to take lanes.  I also refuse to edit anything in it if it requires intense editing because I can't get the hang of take lanes.  There are one or two main issues that stop me from using them altogether.  So I basically stick with X2 for pure mixing because it feels smoother.

Fix take lanes (or take a look at a much-requested 'rebuild' ability) and I'll be a happy camper for sure.
I don't need new features.  I don't think anyone here really does as seen by a lot of the threads.

2013/04/04 12:10:26
brconflict
I'm still on Windows 7 (now 64-bit), but X1d seems to perform better for me than X2a, except for the transport, which still performs poorly in both. 
2013/04/04 14:33:29
LJB
X2 is almost perfect for me - except for crashing 51% of the time when I click on a bus in the console window. WHY WHY WHY!?!?!?!?
2013/04/04 14:44:07
emwhy
LJB, if you haven't applied the X2A patch that will keep happening. I had the same problem, X2A fixed all that. Actually the hotifix took care of it first.
2013/04/04 14:58:50
Muziekschuur at home
brconflict


Muziekschuur at home


What is NOT working in X2A? X2A was an amazing update and a great gift to us Cakewalk Sonar customers. As we we are now able to use touch screens. Where that functionality was not there in X2 and not really asked for. We got an awesome bonus and means X2 is quite future proof... So I am not quite grasping where the X2B is needed for?
I think you may just be one of the fortunate ones that hasn't run into any problems, or probably utilize the power of X2 in other areas more than users like me. If you peruse the forum, you can quickly find people having issues that go unexplained, and the worst thing about many of these issues is that a majority of them aren't always reproduce-able. This means that the bug-submission form Cakewalk requires doesn't really encompass bugs that people find and can't recall the steps, or can't get it to happen again while trying to reproduce such issues.

Like I said, Sonar is VERY powerful in all it can do, and looking at the competition, it still wins me over, even though there's features in others I'd pay money for if they could be brought into Sonar. But all that power quickly is foreshadowed when you run into bugs or issues that Support can't work out or that you can't reliably reproduce.

X2 feels like a solid DAW, but with some new code that drops the ball fast when it breaks. I fear this is exactly what X2b will be like: more features, and less bug fixes. I also fear Take Lanes won't get much love from the bakers, either. But I don't know. They don't indicate anything either way until the next update comes out and I read the "fixed" portion of the Readme. I'm nearly always disappointed by what wasn't addressed. 

X2A feels like a solid DAW to me. And I am using Sonar since Sonar 7. And when issues like the above arise in my case it has allways been a hardware faliure. There are many people out there still recording to their C:\ disk. "because it allways worked"... Then they do a heavey session, RAM is full and the recording is not completed because the computer was temporarily overloaded. This and more is what I see when I attempt to help people with their Tascam mixer and DAW of choice combo. It takes either skill or a good DAW builder to get a DAW you can do critical recording on... 


2013/04/04 15:33:27
pbognar
fooman


X2a was a pretty darn good update, not cause of touch-screen in my opinion, but for the bug fixes.
X2 is fairly quick compared to X1 after the update to X2a.  X2 had a lot of little bugs that forced me back to X1.  X2a allows me to mix without many bugs.  And all of the bugs I do see are all pretty much one of two plugins that aren't playing nice with X2 (Voxengo or Steven Slate VCC).

I still don't track in X2 due to take lanes.  I also refuse to edit anything in it if it requires intense editing because I can't get the hang of take lanes.  There are one or two main issues that stop me from using them altogether.  So I basically stick with X2 for pure mixing because it feels smoother.

Fix take lanes (or take a look at a much-requested 'rebuild' ability) and I'll be a happy camper for sure.
I don't need new features.  I don't think anyone here really does as seen by a lot of the threads.

If you don't track in X2 due to take lanes, then "Houston, we have a problem".


I would seek out the help of the experts on the forum.  Perhaps there is a configuration issue, or just something which you could approach from a different angle.


The first thing I would expect to be able to do in a DAW application is track.






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