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2013/03/23 23:22:29
Glyn Barnes
Sidroe


Marley used a lot of Hammond organ !
Yep - some great and unmistakable Hammond, "No Woman no Cry" for example. However the days when I was into Reggae pre-date Marley's international fame and transistor organs like the Farifisa were more common.
 
 
2013/03/23 23:46:52
Glyn Barnes
Tripecac


What soft synth (and perhaps kit) would you recommend for getting those nice snare rim shots, timbale, etc.?

Well - I see you have also posted on the NI forums and got zero replies.  You ask there about Komplete.
 
  • I reckon a combination of 60's Drummer for the main kit and Battery for the percussion will be as good as it gets. However I concur with Bitflipper that Wavesfactory's Tea Towel Drums would fit well. (IIRC they are a Kiwi company)
  • Vintage Organs Farfisia Vox Continental or one of the Hammonds depending on the era of Reggae you are after.
  • Vintage Keys for Rhodes and Clavenett.
  • Scarbee Pre Bass is not in Komplete, but the MM bass would be serviceable.
 
Guitars - I am not sure. Orange Tree Evolution has Reggae presets, but if you don't have it try the mute guitar patches from TTS-1 and put them through Guitar rig.
2013/03/24 03:38:09
bitflipper
Perhaps the best Farfisa emulation around, and it's  FREE: 
http://www.martinic.com/combof/downloads/

Reggae was very big in England (with a certain crowd) when I lived there 1969-1972. Vox Continentals were what I saw most. But the fellow who wrote the Farfisa referenced above also made us a killer Continental too.
http://www.martinic.com/combov/



2013/03/24 04:35:31
Glyn Barnes
bitflipper

Reggae was very big in England (with a certain crowd) when I lived there 1969-1972. Vox Continentals were what I saw most. 
I stand corrected- Vox Continental was the classic Reggae/Rock Steady Organ. The organ was a important part of the rhythm section on a lot of that early stuff.
 
 
 
 
2013/03/24 05:36:34
djoni
Glyn,

I didn't know about the Orange Tree productions. Had a listen at the demos and they sound really good. Thinking of getting at the least the guitars....
thank you
joni
2013/03/24 06:33:56
Glyn Barnes
djoni


Glyn,

I didn't know about the Orange Tree productions. Had a listen at the demos and they sound really good. Thinking of getting at the least the guitars....
thank you
joni


Yes - they are excellent, but remember, the full version of Kontakt is required.
2013/03/24 11:01:26
djoni
Glyn Barnes

Hi, yes I know.
I have had Kontakt 5 for sometime and tomorrow the new Komplete Ultimate 9 arrives at my door.
I am getting the Orange Tree stuff tonight.
Thanks,
joni
djoni


Glyn,

I didn't know about the Orange Tree productions. Had a listen at the demos and they sound really good. Thinking of getting at the least the guitars....
thank you
joni


Yes - they are excellent, but remember, the full version of Kontakt is required.


2013/03/25 23:30:51
Tripecac
I'm having a very hard time trying to get my instruments to match that classic reggae sound. No matter what I do, they always end up sound either like hard-rock or new age. So either my instruments are limited (which I doubt), or my patch selection or effects tweaking ability is limited (more likely).

Here's a well known reggae song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8GCc8OhTz8 -- I chose it because it has a short intro, is relatively spacious and slow (good as an example), and has the standard organ/guitar interplay. You can't hear the bass very well, though.

Another well-known example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3UqvWk8-uw -- you can hear the bass clearly, but I think more instruments are playing in unison than is typical.

What Komplete or Sonar patches would you use to match the main rhythm section: guitar, bass, organ, guitar? What effects would you use?

I'd love to hear (or watch) some examples of soft synths being used to match those sounds!
2013/03/26 01:12:31
sharke
The reverb is a huge part of that Bob Marley sound. It's beautiful. 
2013/03/26 02:30:18
Tripecac
For drums, I tried the Abbey Road 60s kits (with Komplete). The early 60s kit doesn't seem to have a heavy enough kick drum. The late 60s kit has a nicer kick.

However, the kit as a whole seems to have too much reverb or something; it sounds too much like a real drum set rather than a drum set on a record or CD. I know that sounds like a strange complaint (similar to people's complaint about 48 fps in the Hobbit movie), but the "realism" of the Abbey Road late 60s kit makes it sound different from traditional reggae.

I tried compression, but it didn't make it sound closer to the record.

So then I tried sending the kit through Guitar Rig (Komplete's amp simulator). I went through dozens of effect templates, mostly at random, but didn't find anything that sounded right.

So I'm a bit at a loss...

Is the Abbey Road 60s kit not a good starting place? I tried Studio Drummer (another Komplete kit), but that didn't sound right either.

Any tips on how to at least get the drums sounding consistent with that 70s Marley sound?
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