vintagevibe

chuckebaby


I honestly could not even imagine what it would be like to be pressing icons in the toolbar to cut/copy/paste.
I mean I know I did once apon a time, but that seems like black and white film days.
like 1950's technology.

sorry nothing against the original poster here.
but its soooo much easier to use keyboard shortcuts to do all this rather than running my mouse all over the screen clicking on icons 1000 times a project.

That's why we need customizable toolbars.  So you can have what you like and other people can have what they like.  What works best for you may not be best for others.  Unless you think everyone should be forced to work your way because it's the right way.

vintage, weren't you just asking for an undo button on the toolbar ?
I say no more..lol
 
(whispering) Control + Z buddy   :) 
 
you don't have to work like me, you can work anyway you enjoy.
but guess what, your icons are not there, so its either use the toolbar or the shortcuts?
whats it going to be?
 
then again you could keep complaining and hope that cakewalk hears you.
but I doubt they will go backwords in their technology.
 
here you said:
"That's why we need customizable toolbars.  So you can have what you like and other people can have what they like."
 
sorry man, this isn't burger king, where we do it your way". 
its software, theres a big difference. 
 
I just don't get it, sonar comes with functions and rather than learn them you want to come in the forum and complain about how everyone should be able to have their own functions,
that in itself is a joke.

I too have found less need for the buttons than at X1's first release... I depended on Sonar Plus at the time...

I now use Duckbar for a custom toolbar.. It works just fine and tho it also harbors the abilities to extensively modify the look of Sonar which does alter certain aspects of the file... Using only the toolbar does not... It simply ads a sticky toolbar on top of Sonar wherever you place it... I find the empty portion of the skylight frame perfect for this...

So if you really want a free customizable toolbar... Why not check it out?

Keni

Keni


I too have found less need for the buttons than at X1's first release... I depended on Sonar Plus at the time...

I now use Duckbar for a custom toolbar.. It works just fine and tho it also harbors the abilities to extensively modify the look of Sonar which does alter certain aspects of the file... Using only the toolbar does not... It simply ads a sticky toolbar on top of Sonar wherever you place it... I find the empty portion of the skylight frame perfect for this...

So if you really want a free customizable toolbar... Why not check it out?

Keni

+1
I totally agree, I think its a nice mod myself.
I used it for awhile as well back when it was sonar plus.
 

Bristol_Jonesey


Save = Ctrl + s
Cut = Ctrl + x
Copy = Ctrl + c
Paste = Ctrl + V

ALL of these are standard with any Windows programs

Undo = Ctrl + z
Redo = Ctrl + Shift + z

And more importantly have been so since Windows first hit the market.
 
And yet really established with CP/M and WordStar.  Nearly every kb shortcut common today was established then (early 80's).  And still infinitely faster than a mouse mouse/click event.

Yes, heaps quicker. And you don't have to look at the keyboard either.

Why should Cakewalk need to cater to noobs? 

I'm a heavy shortcut key user so I really wish there were more shortcut key assignable commands, for example marker positions (first marker for Num 1, second marker for Num 2...I do this in another daw and it's soooo handy), [Bounce to Clips], [Unsolo All Tracks], [Lock Position]&[Lock Data] separately, [Controller/Surface Properties], etc.

But I'm not against the idea of adding the buttons the OP is requesting to Control Bar, because users can choose to hide them (it'd drive me crazy if they were going to add them to one of existing modules I use, though). 

And Control Bar would be much slimmer if users could hide and change the positions of the buttons/rows. In my case, I don't need numeric buttons on Screenset module, buttons and the fader on the left side of Transport module, and so on. If the above shortcut keys were available and the buttons/rows were hidable/changeable, all I need to display would be Event Inspector module, Performance module, Snap module, the pull-down for the screenset menu, and the right side of Transport bar.

And the reason why I think Duckbar isn't the solution for everyone is....there are many Sonar users all over the world who cannot read English 

That's why we need customizable toolbars.  So you can have what you like and other people can have what they like.  What works best for you may not be best for others.  Unless you think everyone should be forced to work your way because it's the right way.

vintage, weren't you just asking for an undo button on the toolbar ?
I say no more..lol
       

Note sure what your point is.  I'm asking for the option.

backwoods


Yes, heaps quicker. And you don't have to look at the keyboard either.

Why should Cakewalk need to cater to noobs? 

I work faster when I avoid the keyboard and keep looking at the screen or instrument.  My hands are usually on instruments.  My track ball can be anywhere I need it at any time .  What does this have to do with "noobs"?

I live in text windows all day long and have a heavy palette of short-cuts at my fingertips so to employ them  in Sonar for me is a snap. Just last week I saw a reference in a DAW manufacturers video that stated that studies have shown that keyboard shortcuts can increase your efficiency by 400%.

That said, I fully support my Sonar family in their desire for a tool bar button for save, or say a panel in the CB of customizable buttons. I understand that Cakewalk uses pictures instead of dynamic graphics for it's interface but seriously I don't see why this seems so difficult...assuming of course that those who want it have submitted a FR.

Now can we talk about real custom colors please? 

Regards

mmorgan


I live in text windows all day long and have a heavy palette of short-cuts at my fingertips so to employ them  in Sonar for me is a snap. Just last week I saw a reference in a DAW manufacturers video that stated that studies have shown that keyboard shortcuts can increase your efficiency by 400%.


Regards

Not with a guitar in your hands or at an E-Drum kit beside you desk.