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  • Change Key of Multiple Tracks
2013/03/21 16:36:12
tbaroni
I frequently want to temporarily change the key of a midi composition with multiple tracks.  Using the KEY tool on the track inspector is a simple way to do it, but I have not found a way to do it on all tracks simultaneously.  Is there a way?  If there is, I'd perfer that approach rather than transposing all the tracks.
 
I tried to send my midi outputs thru a subgroup bus, but it seems that those buses must not be for midi tracks.
 
..    Tony
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2013/03/21 16:54:59
daveny5
Select all the MIDI tracks and Process-Transpose. That actually transposes the notes in the track. Using the Key tool tramsposes them on the fly, but doesn't actually change the notes in the track. 
2013/03/21 17:00:52
garrigus
Unfortunately, the Key+ parameter doesn't respond to the Quick Group function. So you'll have to actually change the data on the tracks as follows... select all melodic tracks (don't select any percussion tracks). Then choose Process > Transpose.

To change the tracks back quickly, just press Ctrl+Z to undo. Or you can use the Transpose function to transpose them back to their original values.

Scott


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2013/03/21 17:06:20
vintagevibe
They removed that functionality in X1.  If you need try different keys it's a cumbersome, amateurish process in Sonar.
2013/03/21 17:33:44
Cactus Music
Like Dave said, it's pretty fast and easy to use the transpose function. Just remember to leave your drum track out of the equation. 

I often build a bed track for people this way and then they can change there mind about the key the song is in at last minute. Then I can start adding audio tracks once key and tempo are nailed down.

Global Midi transpose on the old school sequencers used to automatically exclude channel 10. Sonar might have this feature hidden away somewhere but I haven't found it. So just hold down the Ctrl key as your highlight with mouse. 
2013/03/21 17:56:51
vlab
Edit: red OP message correctly !

You could save time by assigning a custom key binding (in my case SHIFT+T), 
group your tracks together, select that group, then SHIFT+T . 

It's destructive, but you can use Undo-Redo to taste, and/or keep notes of your transpose values. 

I hope that helps ! 

Cheers ! 

V
2013/03/21 18:09:57
chuckebaby
vintagevibe


They removed that functionality in X1.  If you need try different keys it's a cumbersome, amateurish process in Sonar.


I agree but that still isn't helping this guy who has a question, I thought this was about helping people ?
2013/03/22 00:08:00
swamptooth
try turning your midi clips into groove clips, then open the track inspector and clicking the clip tab.  click the groove clip sub-header and check "follow pitch".  then enter the reference note for the clip... some conversion is necessary that if i remember is better explained in the manual.  then, at points in the piece that you want changes to occur, hit m to insert a marker and select a note target from "groove-clip pitch".  it takes a bit to see what's going on. the best thing to do is right-click the groove clip and select bounce to clips to see what's going on.  
2013/03/22 04:59:25
Bristol_Jonesey
Transpose is the quickest & easiest option.

Bear in mind that some chord voicings might not sound "correct" after being transposed and you may have to manually work out a different inversion that fits with the music.
2013/03/22 09:08:19
icontakt
garrigus


... select all melodic tracks (don't select any percussion tracks). Then choose Process > Transpose.

Scott, I thought you were going to tell the OP the quickest way you have shown us in your video.....select all tracks and enter "+" or "-" and the desired value in the Pitch field of Event Inspector. 

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