The below is from the Readme file of Sonar 8.5.3. I present it here as a reminder that Sonar 8.5 had a lot of bugs in it too.
I don't present this as a way to discount the bugs in X1, rather simply that we have had these things to deal with before. It did not cause this sort of consternation.
None the less I do think any bugs when identified need to be fixed asap.
Issues Addressed in SONAR 8.5.3
AudioSnap
· Vastly improved stability · Rendering [font=""courier new""]o
Render Mode “Applies to” set to “Tracks” did not always apply to all clips on a track [font=""courier new""]o
Bouncing using Radius Mix sometimes resulted in flatlined clips · Clip Follows Project [font=""courier new""]o
Was not undo-able [font=""courier new""]o
Toggling sometimes changed slip edits · Clip Tempo Map [font=""courier new""]o
Ruler sometimes stayed on after disabling AudioSnap · Addressed various graphics glitches with transient markers, Clip Tempo Maps and AudioSnap Palette button states · “Show Pool Lines” setting was not persisted properly in project files General · Arpeggiator sometimes stopped working after a bounce or freeze operation · BitBridge servers defaulted to 1 after VST scan · SONAR would sometimes crash when accessing a Windows 7 Homegroup from the Media Browser · Improved stability when switching driver modes
Issues Addressed in SONAR 8.5.2
Accessibility
· Event List View was not accessible · Accelerator keys fixed for the following: Audio Effects Dialog, Audio Options
· Extra Encoding Options was missing a keyboard accelerator · Insert Tracks dialog had incorrect or missing accelerator keys · Paste | Advanced dialog has missing accelerator keys · Using keybinding to arm a track did not always work while a project was playing · Can now change focus in Track View to the Track Inspector Arpeggiator
· Extra root notes played quietly when using “Rhythms” presets · Arpeggiator introduced random, flammed or doubled notes when using some pattern-based presets · Open Preset dialog did not always remember last folder location · Arpeggiator UI would remain on after an instrument track was frozen · Arpeggiator widget group would not appear unless FX Bin was also enabled · Velocity control had slightly different behavior for Rhythm Only shapes AudioSnap
· Clicking “Set Clip from Project” would sometimes crash SONAR · SONAR would sometimes crash when choosing “Set Measure/Beat at Now” · Improved results using Threshold control · MIDI events could not be quantized to the AudioSnap Pool · MIDI events would not snap to transients in the AudioSnap Pool · Tab to Transients in the PRV always followed the first track rather than the selected track · Using Copy as MIDI would paste notes at 100% duration, making it difficult to work with · Clicking AudioSnap Enable/Disable button sometimes hid the waveform of the clip · AudioSnap Enable did not light up in Palette after selecting “Edit Clip Map” · The AudioSnap Palette would always re-open on the primary monitor, even when closed from a secondary monitor · Drag/scroll did not work with Transient Tool when selecting transient markers offscreen · When adding envelope nodes at transient markers, nodes were created for disabled markers · SONAR would temporarily hang when adding envelope nodes at transients · After splitting a clip with Transient Markers on, Markers on right-side clip remained on after switching tools · Transient Markers sometimes appeared on Groove Clips · Transient Markers were not displayed on frozen clips after freezing an instrument track · Projects sometimes took a very long time to load, due to AudioSnap performing tempo detection on load · Tempo detection is now performed on a clip the first time an AudioSnap command is applied to a clip · Duplicate tempo candidates sometimes appeared in the Average Tempo list · SONAR was not always able to copy the clip tempo to the project tempo when choosing “Set Project from Clip” if the selected clip was at the start of a project · F1 Help did not always open for the AudioSnap Palette Automation
· Automation envelopes were sometimes excluded when copying data from instrument tracks · Clip Automation envelopes were sometimes deleted from a clip when an overlapping clip on another layer was deleted · Copying clips with clip envelopes into tracks with layers sometimes caused the clip envelopes to stop working · Automation Write button in Synth Plug-in Header did not always arm all automatable parameters Cakewalk Plug-ins
· External Insert did not always properly compensate for latency while recording · Under some circumstances, Channel Tools would case overs and stop the audio engine · For VX-64, PX-64 and TL-64, changing parameters from a control surface did not update the graphics in the UI · VX-64 and PX-64 dynamics and delay modules would sometimes lose their settings on sampling rate changes · Dragging nodes in LP-64 EQ during playback would sometimes crash SONAR · “Half Rack’ Plug-ins (Alias Factor, HF Exciter, Tempo Delay, etc.,)
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Were sometimes not installed correctly in Studio Edition [font=""courier new""]o
Did not work play sound in all x64 configurations [font=""courier new""]o
Did not always display at the correct size · Cakewalk MIDI FX plug-in controls did not display correctly · BitMeter plug-in was not installing correctly in SONAR Studio · Projects containing Fantom VS or ARX Editors did not always load properly in Windows Vista · Tooltips were missing for Solo and Step Sequencer buttons in the SONAR plug-in header strip General
· Bus input trim sometimes became inactive after bouncing, freezing or creating a V-Vocal clip in a project · SONAR sometimes glitched when enabling or disabling delay compensated plug-ins during playback · Process | Audio | Reverse flatlined 64-bit audio files on x64 · Project files saved with Groove Clip slice edits did not always load the edits back in · MIDI Echo no longer worked for Drum Maps · In the Event List, changing Value or Type of Events caused the View to scroll to the top · In the Piano Roll View, lassoing notes while zoomed in caused redraw problems and erratic selection behavior · Improved overall stability on PC’s using older AMD processors that do not support SSE2 · The default latency for WDM devices has now been lowered to 30msec from 100msec · Assignable controls did not work for synths patched in an FX Bin · SONAR sometimes crashed when inserting a VSTi with “All Synth Outputs” checked in the Insert Synth dialog · Insert Synth Dialog did not remember settings across sessions · Synth Rack could not be minimized when several other views were opened maximized · Floating Windows could not be disabled for some views · Projects containing Arturia Moog Modular V2.5 sometimes loaded with a compatibility warning · Disk and CPU meters sometimes exceeded 100% Instrument Tracks
· Inserting track templates containing instrument tracks sometimes played at a lower volume than when saved · Pasting MIDI data to/from an instrument track sometimes created a new MIDI track Matrix View
· Capturing to the Track View now obeys Matrix Row Mutes and Solos · Capturing to the Track View did always work correctly for cells that were looping, but the source clip was not a Groove Clip · When capturing to the Track View, sometimes triggering a new cell to toggle off a previously playing cell did not turn off the capture from the previous cell · Matrix View sometimes dropped first buffer on triggering on audio cell and played extra buffer after triggering the cell off · Under certain conditions, MIDI cells missed the first note when triggered · Pending cells would get triggered when enabling Sync to SONAR Transport · Cells did not stop when in "Transport Sync" mode when Metronome is enabled · When not set to Follow Transport, triggering a cell for the first time in the Matrix View did not always start immediately · When set to Follow Transport, stopping SONAR sometimes did not stop all cells in the Matrix · Cells would not retrigger when Global Retrigger mode was on and Global Loop mode was off · On some occasions, scrollbars did not appear when rows containing populated cells were offscreen · Cell progress indicators were not always indicating the exact playback position of the cell · Multiple clips could not be simultaneously drag-dropped from the Track View into the Matrix View · Did not support type 1 MIDI files · Timing and performance optimizations Media Browser
· Presets did not function properly in non-English OS’s · Presets pointing to folders under “My Documents” did not function properly on Windows 7 · No longer continues to play selected clip(s) after dragging into the Matrix View · Preview Bus list did not update for renamed buses · Improved stability with multiple projects opened simultaneously Step Sequencer
· Open and closing the controller plane when scrolled down in the View caused the View to scroll to the top · With multiple rows selected, changing a parameter in one row sometimes changed all parameters in other rows as well · Velocities could not be edited for newly-created steps while the velocity lane was open · Velocities could no longer be edited after changing the number of beats in the pattern · Edit controls pop-up did not appear correctly on screen when scrolled down the View · Tooltips did not display the parameter/value as the control was dragged · MIDI CC’s in controller pane did not display the CC number · Did not always retain New Value Types added to the controller pane · Flammed steps played back inconsistently when per-step probability was less than 100% · Clearing all steps sometimes did not clear probability settings · Patterns with a time offset on the last step would sometimes hang the last note · Step Sequencer sometimes opened on previously selected track rather than selected track · Inserting a new row in a Step Sequencer attached to an unlinked SS clip sometimes crashed SONAR · The Step Sequencer View sometimes expanded after deleting a row · Looping the Step Sequencer with Reason 4 sometimes dropped notes after looping · Performance optimizations Session Drummer 3
· There was a memory leak in Session Drummer 3 upon opening and closing projects · In French version of SONAR, some SD3 kits played at +12dB to +20dB too loud · On Windows 7 x64, closing and opening the UI during playback sometimes caused SD3 to no longer play audio · Various content issues with the following kits: [font=""courier new""]o
Steven Slate Kits § StevenSlate_OldZepKit_Dry and StevenSlate_SizzleKit_Dry had cutoff problems when quiet notes followed loud notes § StevenSlate_SizzleKit_Dry hi hats were not grouped § Dry kits weren't choking the hi hats properly § Sidesticks weren't full velocity sensitive and did not play properly at low velocities § Crash cymbals and toms were cutting themselves off § Toms were not correctly decending in pitch from Note 50 down to the lowest Floor Tom [font=""courier new""]o
Sonic Reality Kits § Some side stick sounds didn't have full velocity scaling; a very low velocity would trigger a loud sound § Some open hi-hats sounded like pedal hats, and had excessive low frequency content § Snares were monophonic; hitting a snare twice would produce an unexpected cutoff sound § Some snare rolls played too slow § PremrTimbaleKit: Right Hand Snare, Note 40, and Right Hand Low Snare, note 43, at high velocity, had an audible click in the right speaker
§ ClassicRock Kit: Crash Cymbal on Note 49 triggered a Bell hit of the Cymbal rather than a normal Crash Cymbal
§ Blues Kit: The Snare Roll samples had an audible hissing noise
§ BritRock Kit: The Snare Roll had an audible clicking on the attack
§ RingBeats Kit · There was an audible hissing noise in the Snare Roll · There was audible clicking in some velocity layers of the Snare Roll · SideStick had doubled/ flamed hits towards the upper velocities § TR-707 had missing floor tom sample
§ TR-808_bright had missing low cymbal sample
§ DarkLordOfTheSethKits: sidestick was not fully velocity sensitive
§ NPulse kit contained some samples with extra hits at the very end
§ Groovy Kit Brushes Note 39 played the wrong sample
Track View
· Archived Folders did not preserve Mute and Solo states · Set Snap Offset to Now Time did not always persist the offset in the clip properties · Bouncing multiple Groove Clips that were split and moved sometimes yielded unpredictable results · Groove Clips starting at Measure 1 played back incorrectly after the start time was adjusted · SONAR sometimes did not draw clip waveforms for long WAVE64 audio files · Improved stability with Groove Clips Video
· Video sometimes did not maintain sync while looping in project · Video is out of sync when using audio metronome count-in · Video lost sync when changing Now Time during playback · WMV videos are sometimes displayed upside down when first imported into SONAR in Windows Vista or Windows 7 Issues Addressed in SONAR 8.5.1
SONAR 8.5.1 addresses a number of issues with the new Matrix View, including:
· In some system configurations, MIDI clips could not always be triggered at low latencies.
· Some MIDI controllers would not trigger cells properly when latch was set to OFF.
· The first MIDI note of a cell would sometimes not play when triggered.
· Under certain conditions, with “Follow Transport” set to ON, cells would not stop when the SONAR Transport was stopped.
· Audio glitches would sometimes occur when quickly triggering MIDI clips within the same row.
· Long MIDI notes within a cell were sometimes truncated on playback.
· Matrix View would sometimes lose MIDI learn assignments after swapping MIDI hardware.
· Matrix View ignored trim points in clips dragged from the Track View.
· Audio files that were added to the Matrix and then cleared from the Matrix were sometimes still saved with projects.
· Various performance and stability optimizations.
The following adjustments were made to Matrix View mode behaviors:
· When Retrigger is on, the Matrix will always play cells from the beginning, regardless of the “Cell Start” mode.
· When Latch is off, cells will always toggle on/off when triggered, ignoring the setting of the Retrigger mode.