mike_mccue


"In case no one knows this I do not at present have X1. Nor do I have X1a. I don't even have the hot fix for X1a."

Start with the hot fix.

;-)

When I have the PRV maximized there is nothing in the gui that allows me to change the snap settings.

Maybe I can learn and remember some key bindings... but the GUI no longer offers any suggestion that you may change the snap to grid within the PRV view.

Which is a bummer for me because when I'm in PRV I change my snap settings all the time. I'm going to miss the immediacy and efficiency of having the power to choose a snap setting right inside the PRV.

For example last week in 8.5.2 I was running 16th triplets in PRV and whole measures in Track. Back and forth... pow... pow... pow. I like to work fast.

I'm still not sure how Screen Sets and PRV inter relate because I want to access different clips at different times in PRV and I don't wish to see any of the other clips in there.

If you set a screen set for a generic PRV view it just opens PRV indiscriminately... it does not focus on a particular clip in the track view.

I find that to be a waste of time... so I'm still double clicking MIDI clips in track and having to expand the view, drag out the left margin, drop the controller panes downwards etc... each time... I'm encountering the same old 18 year legacy of collapsing PRV and wondering how screen sets could possibly help.

I'll repeat, I only want the clip I want in PRV. I don't want all the clips and I don't want to have to save screen sets on the fly for each clip I want to work with either.






Why not consider that the manual may be as buggy as the application?

Merry Christmas.

best regards,
mike

Mike, I'm not sure I'm understanding exactly what you are trying to achieve so forgive me if this doesn't help

Try this to achieve your example....

1. Go to an unused screenset by pressing the corresponding number button, say 7
2. Maximise the track view but make sure that the control bar is visible and in a convenient place for you (press C to toggle it)
3. Make sure the snap to module is visible, and then set your preferred snap to resolution.
4. Go to another unused screenset say 6
5. Open the PRV on your chosen track and maximise it, again make sure the control bar is visible.
6. Again make sure the snap to module is visible, and then set the snap to resolution you want to work in.

Now all you have to do is toggle between the views using the number keys 6 & 7. Your views, stay maximised, with their own snap to settings. You can toggle the grid on & off with F12

You can also set up more screensets with different tracks in the PRV view and jump instantly between them with the appropriate screenset shortcut number. All independent snap to settings, tracks etc....

I personally think screensets are great and very, very powerful. The above is just one example.

BTW if this does help you perhaps you (or anyone else reading this) can test what I suspect is a bug for me. If you set up more than one PRV screenset when you jump from one to the other the notes "disappear" (You can still see the velocity tails in the controller pane) until you click on the scroll bar at the bottom when the missing notes reappear. Only tracks with 'notes' though, drum tracks are fine. Bizarre. Can anyone confirm this please?

Edit: It seems to be intermittent to me, happens in some projects but not others. Anyway reported CWBRN-3678

John


 " Clearly I can neither confirm or deny it not having X1 at present. "
 
 
 
 
Uh...ok...right...so your point is...?

yorolpal


In my TV I generally keep my Snap on "Measure" as I'm mostly cutting and pasting Chrouses and Verses and such.  I switch to "Absolute Time", of course, when editing audio clips.  In my PRV however I'm almost always on eighths, sixteenths or their triplet siblings...because these are the most ubiquitous units I'm editing individual notes to.  When moving back and forth as much as I do between views it's good to know what my Snap is set to in both.  Many...many...many's the time in the new setup I've done some editing in PRV jumped back into TV and tried to some editing only to see I'm using the wrong Snap setting...this can be maddening especially if I'm unknowingly set at absolute time...cut and paste a chorus and verse or two and then realize they are all just a tick or two off.  In any case, for many of us, Having different Snap to Grids seems better. 

+1   Having different Snap grids when in different views makes perfect sense to me as well.  It is the same reasoning why we now have tools that change functionality in different views.

+ EQ plots in the Console when being narrow strips are used...
+ Undo and A/B Toggle for track EQ (like in Sonitus)
+ Ability to read Insert FX names when strips are narrow

harikaram


+ EQ plots in the Console when being narrow strips are used...
+ Undo and A/B Toggle for track EQ (like in Sonitus)
+ Ability to read Insert FX names when strips are narrow

+1
 

Minor things missing or just don't feel right -

(1)  F5.  I posted this elsewhere, but one missing feature is the ability to press F5 to choose a marker as a start time in clip properties, that's how I usually line things up where I want them. 

(2)  F8.  Another thing that is missing is the old F8 - a quick go-to end of selection.   In theory ctl-g is supposed to do this, but I often get a warning "no events match your search criteria".   Sometimes I don't get the warning, instead it brings me to a seemingly random place in the project...    I just want to quickly go to the end of my selected clip...  I used to click on a clip & F7-F8 to rapidly go to the start or end.   Still haven't figured out how to do F8...

(3)  Save...   The ability to do a one-click save using the mouse...   I'm sure it's there somehwere...   Ctl-s still works, or File-save.   But I am accustomed to clicking on the save button.  I keep sending my mouse on a fruitless quest...  
 
(4)  Something about snap & smart tools doesn't feel right...   The smart-tools are supposed to make the mouse pointer more efficient.   I find myself putzing with that a bit too much.  It seems to want to trim when I want to drag & vice versa.   It seems to want to snap when I don't want it to...   

I am SLOWLY... starting to find out how to get things done in the new workflow.   The biggest problem so far is that it's just so different.   I've been using cw since I got a freebie 5 1/4" cakewalk disc when I bought a midi cable for my first PC way back when...  cw version 3???   But all of my little workflows, kludgy they may have been, have worked with each upgrade.  

This doesn't seem like a bad release at all, it seems very stable, and there are many cool new features.   I'm just facing a much, much tougher than expected learning curve.    

pitch/time - stretch
(menu: audio processing - cakewalk - ...)

it's now still possible to time-stretch a clip directly in track-view.. but the pitch (plugin?) is gone..
it has been one of the better tools.. worked great on vocal tracks as also on complete mixes.

Frank Haas


pitch/time - stretch
(menu: audio processing - cakewalk - ...)

it's now still possible to time-stretch a clip directly in track-view.. but the pitch (plugin?) is gone..
it has been one of the better tools.. worked great on vocal tracks as also on complete mixes.

 
I have the pitch tool in my FX bin (Audio FX > Cakewalk > Pitch Shifter).
I didn't know about the timestretch feature though.
 
Grum.

I think by rearranging a lot of tools and menu's in X1 a lot of people are discovering things that where present in 8.5 (and some that are not present), but they never knew. Also a lot people think items are removed, only to discover they are put elsewhere or have other key bindings. This leads to the impression a lot of things are missing or brand new when this is not the case.

This thread is very useful, but I must confess it is sometimes difficult to see what things are -really- missing and what things are thought to be missing but found in a different location and/or key binding. 

John
I may be totally wrong in thinking CUDA was implemented.

I'm sure you are. You really do have much too much faith in the bakers John. :-)

UnderTow