I just installed X1 on a computer (not my main studio computer) in an effort to become acclimated with the new changes & hopefully contribute to this thread in a manner that can be better appreciated..

All it took was a couple minutes before I realized that one of my most favored features has been eliminated...

The 'Bounce to Tracks' option is missing from the edit window, which is frustrating because in 8.5.3 - I use the Windows short cut by hitting Alt, E, K... 

Due to the fact that I mix much of the time using hardware via the External Insert - 'bounce to tracks' is one of my most widely-used options - of which I always use the keyboard shortcut. 

I also use the 'Bounce to Tracks' feature often in the production stages, as it is used when bouncing soft-synths & Reason tracks via re-wire...

Now it seems that I would no longer be able to perform at the speed of which I am accustomed to... so first impressions is negative.

I will explore X1 more and post my findings!! 






 

On Sonar 8:
- you can hide some tracks in CV to make them "dissapear" from control surface, to prevent accidentally changing volume or so.
After hiding some tracks, Sonar "automaticaly" moves the rest to left, and makes it in CV and IN controller. Under your fingers yuo have THE SAME, hat you can see in CV.

On Snoar X1 - you can't. Theres NO WAY to do this, there's NO WAY that X1 will will treat hiding tracks i CV as they re "dissapeared" and never existed.
- you hide 4 channels/tracks from CV - but you still have all 8 "mapped" t your controller.

It's ill!

Great post Shawn.  I agree with everything you say.

Thanks for the response, brundlefly. F5 still works in most places, but not in the clip-start attribute of clip properties. (The main place I used it...) I hope that gets fixed soon. I'll bind F8 like you said, that will help a lot. I assumed the function was a problem, not the bind. Sounds like an easy fix 'till the next patch. Shawn

Shawn,

Keep in mind that using any of the 'already bound' keys that are the new defaults in X1 will, of course, affect those.

It's kind of a catch 22.   But at least it is do-able.

B San


I just installed X1 on a computer (not my main studio computer) in an effort to become acclimated with the new changes & hopefully contribute to this thread in a manner that can be better appreciated..

All it took was a couple minutes before I realized that one of my most favored features has been eliminated...

The 'Bounce to Tracks' option is missing from the edit window, which is frustrating because in 8.5.3 - I use the Windows short cut by hitting Alt, E, K... 

Due to the fact that I mix much of the time using hardware via the External Insert - 'bounce to tracks' is one of my most widely-used options - of which I always use the keyboard shortcut. 

I also use the 'Bounce to Tracks' feature often in the production stages, as it is used when bouncing soft-synths & Reason tracks via re-wire...

Now it seems that I would no longer be able to perform at the speed of which I am accustomed to... so first impressions is negative.

I will explore X1 more and post my findings!! 






 

You will find that its still there but relocated. For bouncing to tracks you do this from the TV TRACKs menu. To bounce to clips use the CLIPS menu. See the manual and do a search on bounce. There are a lot of ways of doing this. There may be a keybinding for this too.

cornieleous

As far as I could see it was a blatant lie.

Really? Of course, you are always fair and considerate, right John? This thread has become wrong on so many levels. Welcome to another person on my blocked list. I tried to respect you, I really did - but you always have to have the last word and you cannot be wrong.

This is not a competition. It is a discussion. If you have a counter point, please post it. Eventually we may all find none of us had the answer. Just saying...

@John: I will look futher.. but it's very frustrating to have seemingly mastered a program - only to find that I need to learn all over again...

It is really disenheartening that at this present moment I'd seem to know my way around Pro Tools 9 (haven't personally upgraded from 7.3) better than I would the latest version of Sonar - which has been my DAW of choice since the beginning (actually since Pro Audio 6)...

Where are the forum members that want CW to succeed here? Do people really think that misinforming and constant finding fault is helpful to our cause? Our cause being a healthy company and one that will listen to us. If all we do is rant at or about CW they will either turn us off or stop listening to us. This forum is a marketing tool. If it becomes nothing more that a bashing of CW then I don't see much future

 
Anything positive is a marketing tool. Many have made negative a marketing tool also. But  even the genius's that design all this "software" don't know it all. This place is also a think tank, one that benefits us all who are trieing to understand why code and computer hardware and the functions of sound don't always work together. Stuff the universe into a bottle and shake it up and see what comes out. Controling chaos has never been easy.

Thanks for the response, brundlefly. F5 still works in most places, but not in the clip-start attribute of clip properties. (The main place I used it...) I hope that gets fixed soon. I'll bind F8 like you said, that will help a lot. I assumed the function was a problem, not the bind. Sounds like an easy fix 'till the next patch. Shawn

Shawn,

Keep in mind that using any of the 'already bound' keys that are the new defaults in X1 will, of course, affect those.

It's kind of a catch 22.   But at least it is do-able.

You're right.  I'll try binding it to ctl-G, where it's supposed to be in X1-ese.

adrian4u


On Sonar 8:
- you can hide some tracks in CV to make them "dissapear" from control surface, to prevent accidentally changing volume or so.
After hiding some tracks, Sonar "automaticaly" moves the rest to left, and makes it in CV and IN controller. Under your fingers yuo have THE SAME, hat you can see in CV.

On Snoar X1 - you can't. Theres NO WAY to do this, there's NO WAY that X1 will will treat hiding tracks i CV as they re "dissapeared" and never existed.
- you hide 4 channels/tracks from CV - but you still have all 8 "mapped" t your controller.

It's ill!

I must correct the above claim.  After reading the manual and testing it myself, I can assert that the preferences dialog in X1 does offer the user the ability to customize control surface channel strips.  Please see page 1141 in the Reference Guide PDF or see the other thread on this matter.