I don't think "sound" was added until 8.5."3"

"Yes - but that requires an extra click.  If the PRV and TV had different snap settings (as before), it's one less click (ie, you don't have to first change screensets) ;)"

Its not only the dual snap settings, but I am also finding that snap "to" snap "by" will auto change without pressing a shortcut nor clicking on the icon, and snap values will also sometimes be random. Ill be working in a full measure, then all of a sudden notice Im at 1/16. I am aware of which keys are mapped and am no where close to touching them.

In fact one may gain things. Such as GPU support for taking processing off the CPU. I have seen posts saying that one should get an ATI card for this new version. To my knowledge ATI does not support this. I need to look at this further to know the facts. The manual is not clear about what is supported and in what way. But something is being supported. I am not talking about Areo either.

 
Can you expound on this please?

Other enhancements
In addition to the major new features already mentioned, SONAR X1 also includes dozens of
customer-inspired productivity enhancements, including:
• Improved performance. SONAR X1 takes full advantage of GPU acceleration (graphics
hardware) for better-than-ever performance across the application.

A1 that is the best I can do. That is from the manual page 1244. I don't have enough info to go any further.

Look here. This is, if I have interpreted it right, a big deal. CW needs to explain much better then it has to date what it means.

Some of you may know about CUDA.

But I was given the impression that X1 was not as capable as what I already have in 8.5.3. That is false.

It isn't false in my opinion -based upon using X1 for two weeks. While some things are better and faster in X1, it was advertised as providing general workflow enhancement and myself and many others do not agree that it has delivered in several key areas - which I do think got worse, not better. From what I have contributed and read from others, we are not all just stunned by the newness of the product. It really does need some work to be as usable as 8.5. Its ok to say this. Once it is tweaked, I agree it will blow 8.5 out of the water - but not today. Now, to answer the question as asked; There is plenty missing in this version (and I am just talking about major things completely removed):

• individual snap grids TV vs PRV
• custom menus (huge hit to my workflow)
• fully customizable toolbars (again a big loss)
• the ability to customize mouse behvior in PRV
• color customization for several components (important ones like volume and pan controls)
• synth rack assigned controls are unreadable (I consider this a removal of function)
• dropdowns are virtually unreadable throughout the program
• cannot order console tracks as desired
• many track header buttons were moved to inspector - eliminating ability to make rapid changes to those controls with the keyboard. Again loss of function = removal

Those are just some of the items that were completely removed and not replaced with anything. If I listed what is slow, inefficient, inconsistent, or severely limiting the list would be a bit longer. Just because things were moved about and there is a way to do things does not in all cases mean there is a useful way to do things in X1 - functionality and efficiency are not replaced with something equivalent or better on many counts.

I have to add: if you have a look at the quality of many (clearly not all) of the posts providing criticism of X1 (you'll have to do some work to search through some noise) there are many very deep, careful, and constructive opinions being presented. You seem to be trying to make a generalization that people are jumping to conclusions, at least that is what I get from your post - if I have misunderstood, please forgive me that and clarify so that I understand what you mean. Anyway, unless people are being totally rude about it, I don't feel that questioning or trying to invalidate their complaints will get us to a better product. I'm open to different opinions of course.

Cheers,
D

is it just me - but I used to be able to arm and record an audio track on the fly while things were rolling in 8.5.3

can't do it now 

although I dont do it on the fly much anyway so maybe I am wacked 

oh - and I want to be able to change the color of the console view - among other color changes  - 

Mooch4056


is it just me - but I used to be able to arm and record an audio track on the fly while things were rolling in 8.5.3

can't do it now 

although I dont do it on the fly much anyway so maybe I am wacked 

You can still do this. The setting is under Preferences -> Project -> Record

Cornielous;

It was not my intention to disregard any poster's issues. It was my intention to find out what people thought was not included in X1. I thought it was time for a stepping back, a taking of breath and look at this with some rational deliberation.

To me things were beginning to be a little hysterical on the forum and someone needed to post a thread like this one.

Your list could all be said to be not removed but changed. It all depends on how one looks at it. Things moved. Others consolidated. And still other made consistent is not a reduction of any feature that 8.5 had. Heck X1 still supports Studioware. Cal is supported as well.

We knew that Sonar was getting a bit musty. We knew that sooner or later a massive change was bound to happen. I am freaked out by the fact that CW has found a way of including all that was in 8.5 and still come up with a brand new DAW. That should be applauded and right now I hear far to many boos.

The other things you talked about are also known to CW and will be fixed.

I do feel it important that users speak out to draw attention to problems and issues but there is also a lot of bad information floating around on this forum. 

For better or worse our work-flow is changed with this version. We either learn to deal with it or we move on.