Positively Charged

InstrEd


Craig Anderton has running dialog on his site
http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?2711068-I-Have-Sonar-X1-Up-and-Running-Here.../page5

I found really interesting the posts starting on page 5.

Yes indeed.  I particularly find his comment in post #91 (also on page 5) interesting.  The post where he says he won't use 8.5 unless it's the only thing on the computer he's using at the moment.

I also noted his comments regarding audiosnap and the new inspector (in other posts, I think).  And just to keep this on topic, in the posts I read, I did not see any comments from him regarding any possibly missing features in X1.  There could be...I have not read the whole thread.

I want to thank InstrED for bring those post to our attention. Very good reading John.
 
Pos-Charged, Craig said this in the thread:
 
The more I work with X1, the more I find these kinds of functionality issues where the old way doesn't exist or seems broken, but then I find the new way, and realize it's better.

John I think he said it very well there. Because in my case, this is exactly what happen to me. I went to work on some midi drum parts and had a fit over the "No Midi Tools" and started a thread about it. Then I saw a couple of suggestions and went back, worked with it for a lot of hours, and sure enough, I now prefer X1 over 8.5.
 
The Smart Tool is really good. But you have to know how to use it.
 
So John I think it is more ignorance than anything else.

John


Nope. I will soon though.

Didn't know that. I struggle with the fact that you feel it so important to make a point against those of us who are not happy with X1, when you don't have it. I think we could have a far more honest discussion if we are all talking from experience.

cornieleous

John


Nope. I will soon though.

Didn't know that. I struggle with the fact that you feel it so important to make a point against those of us who are not happy with X1, when you don't have it. I think we could have a far more honest discussion if we are all talking from experience.

I 've made that clear in so many posts that it should be general knowledge. Nor does it invalidate this thread. If you read the title it is asking not telling anyone anything. When I answer a post with facts its from either the manual or from posts on this forum from people that do have it and people I trust.

These people include CW employees.

When I am wrong on a point or don't know the answer I will admit my error or say I don't know.

I have tried to be as neutral about this as I can. In a way because I don't have a dog in this fight I am less likely to be emotional about.

What I see is a misrepresentation of what a feature is and ease of use issues. The fact is no features were taken out of X1 unlike Sonar 1 when it replaced Pro Audio 9. The audio edit window was removed. This was a full audio editing feature including a draw tool. Also the ability to  make Studioware panels was remove as well as the Cal editor. That is removing functionality. Changing a GUI but leaving the complete feature set from the past version is not removing features. Sonar 1 was a total GUI change with a loss of real features. I don't need to have the program to delineate those differences.

Further, this thread is not what I think but people posting examples of a feature being removed and a response that I believe will show no such feature was removed. This being done by explaining how to get that feature working for them.

When I get X1 I will be far more able to give my impressions of it which I have so far not done anywhere.

I am hoping that this thread will be helpful to all in clearing up some of the information being spread.

Also a lot of posters have given their verdicts on X1 without having it. I have not done that.

cornieleous

John


Nope. I will soon though.

Didn't know that. I struggle with the fact that you feel it so important to make a point against those of us who are not happy with X1, when you don't have it. I think we could have a far more honest discussion if we are all talking from experience.

+1 on that.  I wonder how you are so sure that these issues will be addressed in the future.  Why should we have had to wait in the first place?  I hope you are correct, but now that I know that you don't even have X1 I have to wonder.  I've been using it since the 9th, and I'll be curious to hear your evaluation after you have used it as long.  Still, you often seem to have insider knowledge that no one else has, and I hope that's the case this time.
Regards,
Lynn

I even went to a tracker ball for a while but couldn't really get on with it. I look forward to the day when there's a touch pad in-built into every keyboard much like it is into most laptops. (In fact if somebody makes one, please link me).

http://www.amazon.com/Ade...B-4000US/dp/B00083Y0YG

Shop about though, I didn't pay anywhere near that much for mine.

Child

+1 on that. I wonder how you are so sure that these issues will be addressed in the future. Why should we have had to wait in the first place? I hope you are correct, but now that I know that you don't even have X1 I have to wonder. I've been using it since the 9th, and I'll be curious to hear your evaluation after you have used it as long. Still, you often seem to have insider knowledge that no one else has, and I hope that's the case this time. Regards, Lynn

How on earth would my not having X1 detract from the validity of me repeating statements from CW?  By having it I am thus given more info on future patches and versions? That makes no sense to me as an argument. I am using logic and deep reading and study to get the answers I have been putting forth.  I believe I am accurate in everything I have said. If I am not show me where I am in error.

If its a question of me not being in someone else's shoes and thus not able to understand the issues that someone is having I don't comment on those kinds of posts as a rule. I have made a comment here and there that is encouraging or synthetic. I have not made any comment that devalues some one else's issues anywhere.

John

+1 on that. I wonder how you are so sure that these issues will be addressed in the future. Why should we have had to wait in the first place? I hope you are correct, but now that I know that you don't even have X1 I have to wonder. I've been using it since the 9th, and I'll be curious to hear your evaluation after you have used it as long. Still, you often seem to have insider knowledge that no one else has, and I hope that's the case this time. Regards, Lynn

How on earth would my not having X1 detract from the validity of me repeating statements from CW?  By having it I am thus given more info on future patches and versions? That makes no sense to me as an argument. I am using logic and deep reading and study to get the answers I have been putting forth.  I believe I am accurate in everything I have said. If I am not show me where I am in error.

If its a question of me not being in someone else's shoes and thus not able to understand the issues that someone is having I don't comment on those kinds of posts as a rule. I have made a comment here and there that is encouraging or synthetic. I have not made any comment that devalues some one else's issues anywhere.


John, I'm not saying that you're in error.  In fact, I'm encouraged that you believe that some of these issues will be addressed in a future patch or version.  I must have missed some of the threads that you've seen from CW saying they will address these issues.  However, as you point out, you're just repeating something someone else said and not speaking from experience.  If you get X1 before any changes are made, please let us know what you think of the work flow.  Does it speed up your work?  If you could provide a link to information you've heard from CW I, and I'm sure many other users, would be happy to know that we're being heard.  Last, but not least, I would like you to  know that I, too, am using logic, reading, studying, and experience to arrive at my conclusions.
Best regards,
Lynn

Eratu's thread

Read the Brandon post

Brandon again post 136

There a lot of others as well. I hope this will get you some answers.

John


Eratu's thread

Read the Brandon post

Brandon again post 136

There a lot of others as well. I hope this will get you some answers.

Thank you, John.  Hope you have a merry Christmas and a productive new year :).

Rothchild

I even went to a tracker ball for a while but couldn't really get on with it. I look forward to the day when there's a touch pad in-built into every keyboard much like it is into most laptops. (In fact if somebody makes one, please link me).

http://www.amazon.com/Ade...B-4000US/dp/B00083Y0YG

Shop about though, I didn't pay anywhere near that much for mine.

Child

Thanks for that. Now that's my idea of a way to work. Thanks again, I'll have a good look round. Ebay here I come...........