• SONAR
  • When inserting a midi drum track, is it to late to break it apart? (p.2)
2013/03/20 23:44:50
redbarchetta
Oh well... No biggie.  I should easily be able to recreate it.
I just need to remember which clips I chose.

I will say this though, it's peaked my interest in learning CAL.  I've seen one small page about CAL, but it had basically NO information at all about it.  
2013/03/20 23:47:29
RobertB
Unless X2 is very different, it will only create one MIDI source track anyway. You can insert a synth such as SD with multiple outputs, but that's not the same thing.
You can split the drums out to different MIDI tracks if you want, but for me, it's better to have all of the drums in one MIDI track. It's much easier to see how the notes relate to each other and make timing/velocity adjustments in one track.
But it's good to explore your options, and if you find that a particular approach works for you, by all means, run with it.
2013/03/20 23:47:29
bluzdog
noynekker


You can edit / select individual drum pieces in PRV, if you have it mapped.
Also you can run (process) CAL program "Split Note to Tracks" to put each midi note on a different track for editing.

Like Noynekker said........You don't really need to split the notes to edit them in the Piano Roll View. In fact it may be easier to keep the midi file all together.
 
Rocky
2013/03/21 00:01:02
redbarchetta
Well, my goal was to do some EQ and compression on the individual pieces. In hindsight I should have just used Superior Drummers mixer for that. But hey, I wanted to play in Sonar. 
2013/03/21 00:13:13
RobertB
OK. That's the audio side, not MIDI.
Don't use Simple Instrument Track.
Instead, insert SD with MIDI Source Track and All Synth Audio Outputs.
Within the SD mixer, you can direct each drum to a specific output . Each output will have its own audio track.
Insert your effects in the FX bin of the audio track(or send to a bus with the effect in place).
What you are wanting to do is basically the point of multiple outputs.

2013/03/21 00:25:19
noynekker
Midi would be useful for adjusting velocities, and timing / groove . . .
but since you're wanting to work with tracks that only need EQ and Compression . . .
like RobertB says - this can best be done in audio, with effects plugins, and mapping each kit piece to individual tracks.
2013/03/21 00:28:01
Kev999
I agree with RobertB.  You need to route the different drums to different outputs within Superior Drummer and these outputs to separate tracks in Sonar.  I've never used Superior Drummer so I can't offer precise details.
2013/03/21 00:47:59
redbarchetta
Thanks again guys... I'm still getting my feet wet on how to get MIDI drums setup properly in Sonar. 
2013/03/21 01:19:24
chuckebaby
rush man,I got 2 videos on setting up sonar, there in my sig.
the "triggering session drummer with a drum machine" video is aimed directly at this.

you might have been able to go in to the synth rack and changed the properties from stereo source to all synth outputs stereo.
2013/03/21 01:49:52
redbarchetta
Now u tell me.  I'll watch them tomorrow
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