brconflict


I feel Lanes can fairly easily be improved without too much recoding. Colors and buttons are key here. I really like the idea of labeling each Automation envelope. That's a pretty neat idea. 

I think having the ability to color code in general is key.
Would really like to be able to color code the entire fader strip. 

redbarchetta

brconflict


I feel Lanes can fairly easily be improved without too much recoding. Colors and buttons are key here. I really like the idea of labeling each Automation envelope. That's a pretty neat idea. 

I think having the ability to color code in general is key.
Would really like to be able to color code the entire fader strip. 

Totally. I listed my top recommendations for Lanes in the Topic: "Orientation: What I think is wrong with Lanes" 

BluerecordingStudios


I think system of take lanes as it is now, is step backwards. Yes they can and must be improved - rebuild function

BluerecordingStudios


I dont have any crashes with sonar X2a, but I agree on Take lanes, please remove this horrible function!

Okay im a bit confused, do you want them rebuilt or removed ?
because you say two different things.
first its there horrible and you want them removed, but when someone calls you on it,
you say rebuild them ?
 
please forgive me I just see this a lot from you, very strange, erratic opinion's.

brconflict


I feel Lanes can fairly easily be improved without too much recoding. Colors and buttons are key here. I really like the idea of labeling each Automation envelope. That's a pretty neat idea. 

I myself would like to think like this as well but with coding, we know very little of what is really going on because once you re-code one thing, 50 other things are changed.
and then those 50 commands need re-coding, and the chain just continues.
 
lets hope for the best on that one though :)

For me X2a crashes every day, and has lots of little bugs that derive me crazy.  Very poor quality here.

I'll tell you what: I'd love to get a bunch of folks who say they have problems and those who say they do not have problems in a lab. Just hard to determine if what problems are legit or not. So many combinations of hardware/software that it is just mind-numbing.

hockeyjx


I'll tell you what: I'd love to get a bunch of folks who say they have problems and those who say they do not have problems in a lab. Just hard to determine if what problems are legit or not. So many combinations of hardware/software that it is just mind-numbing.

It is mind-numbing. I suggested Cakewalk list out hardware specs that were used/tested in their lab so that you can decide to follow suit or make changes there. Assuming you bought the exact same hardware they qualified in test, then it's fairly safe to say you should expect no issues. HOWEVER, if you DO have issues with hardware/updates as tested, you could gain a better feedback channel to Cakewalk developers. This would remove much of the variables in your configuration. 

Realizing this is a picking Winners/Losers scenario, which is largely unfair to many hardware makers, these same hardware makers "could" in theory test their units with Sonar (and other DAW's) and provide a list of winners and losers as well. Make it like a consortium, where software meets OS, meets hardware. 

Being a software engineer for a software product and a consumer of software products, I can see this from both sides.  Sometimes you have to release software (and its new features) earlier than what you like in order to meet time to market demands.  Given this competitive reality, you must release software with some known bugs and some unknown bugs (that your testing in the lab has not yet revealed).  The goal is to introduce new features/functions, improve performance and minimize both known and unknown bugs.  All the while, not creating new bugs.  And meeting the release schedules on time.  It is challenging to say the least - balancing these tradeoffs.  Good software companies balances these tradeoffs qualitatively and quantitatively. 

Now on other side of coin, as a consumer, I would prefer new features that are great, great performance and bug free.  Knowing that is not possible, I still set the bar high.  I think Cakewalk, from my perspective has done a good job and managing the complexity releasing software, including not setting expectation of what will or will not be in a release too early - which always puts engineering into a difficult "box".

And my last point, with "software-only" applications (not turn-key), the software vendor has no control over the OS environment the software will be running in out in the "field".  I can tell you, in the software product I work on, 90% is problem/issue reports, once investigated turn out to be a Windows OS environmental problem - not the vendor software.  The best a software vendor can do is provide good documentation as to what the OS system / interface requirements are and explain implications of not having a solid platform on which your running the software.  Still, you have many customers that either don't or can't build and tune up an appropriate platform for the softwares "intended use".  And sometimes, these customers falsely blame the actually software, when in fact it is their platform that is messed up.  It drives up crazy, but we know this is not much we can do about it - out of our "control boundaries"

Sorry for long message....And I know "track lanes" is not a good example.  That feature should probably have never been released to the field.

Peace Out,  Dan

last month I was able to get X2a running very well on my machine. Still a few bugs but I can live with / work around them for now. I have an off the shelf HP machine i ordered from HP, yes I had them add a hard drive and upgrade the RAM and Video card, but nothing exotic or expensive. Update your windows, optimize the machine, install the X2a patch, make sure you have the latest device drivers. I had tons of issues, crashes etc before i did these things, now, I rarely have an issue, and if I do experience an issue, its a bug. A reboot and I am good to go for another many sessions before i have an issue again.  The most common bugs I see are:
 
1) my interface drives sometimes get "lost" after I change the buffer size. Doesn't happen every time, just sometimes.
2) sometimes sonar does not "unload" completely before I shut the machine off, when this happens, the next time I boot, the drivers get hosed, need to reboot and all is good
3) if I have multiple takes and I freeze that channel while a few of the takes are muted, upon thawing that channel, they are no longer muted. very annoying, so I right click and mute on the clips, rather than the take lane.
4) pre -X2 projects with soft synths seem to be a bit tempermantal. So I copy the midi data to another track, remove and reload the soft synth, move the midi data back and I'm good to go again.

5) IMO, i don't like  the take lanes as they are. takes up too much screen real estate, limited vertical zoom, sometimes if a take lane in the middle is deleted, the screen doesn't refresh, its def gone, but there is a big gap where it was, the other lanes don't collapse back together.  I hope they improve them, if they can't, I would thrilled if they went away.

Wish list:  I wish I could create my own custom toolbar / control bar, not code anthing, just have a toolbar that I can select what tools I want on it so I could add a SAVE button!!!  I know there is a keyboard shortcut and autosave, but I would really like a button!!
 

hockeyjx


I'll tell you what: I'd love to get a bunch of folks who say they have problems and those who say they do not have problems in a lab. Just hard to determine if what problems are legit or not. So many combinations of hardware/software that it is just mind-numbing.

ya i found that if i want to use X2 i go up to my kids room on his baby quad core. i call it.
 X2 runs flawlessly on the cheaper rig and hates my overkill home studio. so i have been out of the topic due to complete loss of brainmatter over why this is. so il just say,,IT IS WHAT IT IS<see ya on x3 forums,that better have nothing close to lanes on X2 and il buy it still,