swamptooth


you've got 5 instances of breverb on it???  how long are you letting it play when it's 15% because with 5 verbs you must have inaudible tails from hell going on.

2 hours

synho

swamptooth


you've got 5 instances of breverb on it???  how long are you letting it play when it's 15% because with 5 verbs you must have inaudible tails from hell going on.

2 hours

Why?

hm. yeah this is kinda weird because even the sonitus verbs hit the cpu and don't let go... odd.  anyway sorry the breverb plugs are hitting your machine at 15%.  That's pretty unreasonable for only 5 instances on one audio track so if this is something you're thinking of doing going forward i might take a look at a new machine. 

I'm not sure if this right or not, but isn't releasing CPU part of the VST3 spec, or can VST2 plugins do this too?    Does any plugin in SONAR release its CPU usage without audio present? 
 

swamptooth


hm. yeah this is kinda weird because even the sonitus verbs hit the cpu and don't let go... odd.  anyway sorry the breverb plugs are hitting your machine at 15%.  That's pretty unreasonable for only 5 instances on one audio track so if this is something you're thinking of doing going forward i might take a look at a new machine. 

Please explain me why I need  a new machine for  Sonar X2 if other world-class DAW's can works perfectly on my current machine?

stevec


I'm not sure if this right or not, but isn't releasing CPU part of the VST3 spec, or can VST2 plugins do this too?    Does any plugin in SONAR release its CPU usage without audio present? 
 

VST2 interface can't do it, only VST3.

http://www.steinberg.net/en/company/technologies/vst3.html
"Managing large plug-in sets and multiple virtual instruments on typical studio computer systems can often be difficult because of CPU performance limits. VST3 helps to improve overall performance by applying processing to plug-ins only when audio signals are present on their respective inputs. Instead of always processing input signals, VST3 plug-ins can apply their processing economically and only when it is needed."


Also one of the best world DAW's such as Cubase 4-7, Ableton Live 8-9, Sudio One 1-2 can do this with native modules!

VST2 interface can't do it, only VST3. http://www.steinberg.net/...technologies/vst3.html "Managing large plug-in sets and multiple virtual instruments on typical studio computer systems can often be difficult because of CPU performance limits. VST3 helps to improve overall performance by applying processing to plug-ins only when audio signals are present on their respective inputs. Instead of always processing input signals, VST3 plug-ins can apply their processing economically and only when it is needed." Also one of the best world DAW's such as Cubase 4-7, Ableton Live 8-9, Sudio One 1-2 can do this with native modules!

FWIW, This feature is really nothing new...
Logic and Samplitude have had this ability for many years.
Made a much more significant difference in the past (when CPUs where struggling with full/dense mixes).
If you have a reasonably current fast CPU, you should have no trouble doing a full/dense mix using Sonar.

Jim Roseberry

VST2 interface can't do it, only VST3. http://www.steinberg.net/...technologies/vst3.html "Managing large plug-in sets and multiple virtual instruments on typical studio computer systems can often be difficult because of CPU performance limits. VST3 helps to improve overall performance by applying processing to plug-ins only when audio signals are present on their respective inputs. Instead of always processing input signals, VST3 plug-ins can apply their processing economically and only when it is needed." Also one of the best world DAW's such as Cubase 4-7, Ableton Live 8-9, Sudio One 1-2 can do this with native modules!

FWIW, This feature is really nothing new...
Logic and Samplitude have had this ability for many years.
Made a much more significant difference in the past (when CPUs where struggling with full/dense mixes).
If you have a reasonably current fast CPU, you should have no trouble doing a full/dense mix using Sonar.

Even if i have 200 tracks in the project with "Saturation Knob" on each?

Even if i have 200 tracks in the project with "Saturation Knob" on each?

Yeah, I get test scenarios...   
But would you use 200 simultaneous tracks (all with saturation effect) in a real production?
If so, that would be a mess...


BTW, You have the ability to apply effects "per-clip" in X2.
If you do this, they only load the CPU when the clip is actually playing.

damn now i feel jipped, because i could only get 156 audio tracks playing back, pc eq, and pc console emulation on every track. granted, my asio buffer had to be set at 2048 samples and my io read cache at 2048kb (a single 7200rpm drive is a drawback) and my disk load peaked at about 93%.  my cpu was pegged in task manager, but in cw only about 80% which means the asio unit was doing its job.  granted i had to restrict saturation knob to 115 tracks beacause it was spiking my cpu (not a cw product btw) and i could only get the pc compression on 60 tracks.   oh, and i had a couple of instances of reaktor applying lfo information to control parameters on the pc eq in realtime.  took a while to get there. my cpu temp hit 72% and my fan speed hit 80% (it was blowing kinda hot but then backed off). oh, and i had all my startup programs enabled, windows defender is on, i'm watching myself on my webcam, and typing this over a wifi network as i listen to what's going on...
so, maybe not 200 tracks (which crapped out my system with softube) but close enough for me.