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  • SIGNAL ROUTE CHALLENGE! Record Two Audio Tracks Post FX Through Bus Output to New Track??
2013/03/17 10:37:33
tayzonday
SO --  I record vocals and I LOVE the sound of my voice when singing into TWO mics together -- a Rode K2 and Sennheiser 416. 

I would normally record each of these mics to its own audio track in Cakewalk Sonar (right now I'm on X1d build 535)

However, it would make EDITING much easier if I could get the combined results of these mics -- POST FX buses -- into ONE recorded audio waveform. 

Right now, I have the two on their own audio tracks . . . sending to a common bus . . . and then that common bus goes to the Master bus. Here is a screenshot: 






What I WANT is to be able to record the audio of the BUS "416 K2" BACK to a THIRD audio track . . . THEN have that audio track output straight to the Master Bus. That way . . . when I edit vocal takes . . . I won't have two copies of everything. 


Is there a way to do this? 






2013/03/17 10:50:23
DW_Mike
Not within Sonar.
Some interfaces will allow a loop-back type function or if you're using a console you can take an output and route it to an input and record that to a track.

But no, inside Sonar there is no way to record a buss back onto a track.

EDIT: To add, if there is then it's a new feature that I am unaware of. (there, butt covered )

Mike
2013/03/17 10:55:29
Chregg
its probably better that way, if your having any problems with one mic and cable easier to get to the bottom of it, plus theres more detail for editing with the two files, my 2 cents worth
2013/03/17 10:58:32
tayzonday
chefmike8888


Not within Sonar.
Some interfaces will allow a loop-back type function or if you're using a console you can take an output and route it to an input and record that to a track.

But no, inside Sonar there is no way to record a buss back onto a track.

EDIT: To add, if there is then it's a new feature that I am unaware of. (there, butt covered )

Mike

Thanks for the reply! It would be an extremely useful capability. While delay compensation would have to be managed -- if Sonar really wants to emulate the routing options of hardware . . . sending a bus back to an audio track -- at least for one iteration -- is essential.
2013/03/17 10:59:19
maximumpower
2013/03/17 11:03:41
tayzonday
Chregg


its probably better that way, if your having any problems with one mic and cable easier to get to the bottom of it, plus theres more detail for editing with the two files, my 2 cents worth

Thanks for your thoughts. Here is where it is NOT better: Say that say I sing 15 takes of a song. And the "final" take for the track is the combined best of 15 takes. This is very common practice. 


Normally I can a/b/c each word of each take somewhat easily when they are on the same audio track. I can audition, slice, dice, pick and chose. E.g. "Mary Had A Little Lamb" has "Mary" from Take 1, "Had a" from Take 8 and "Lamb" from Take 15. 


This audition/slice/dice/pick/choose process becomes extremely cumbersome when dealing with two separate vocal waveforms for each take. 
2013/03/17 11:10:27
DW_Mike
Yeah, Bounce To Track is always an option as Max pointed out.

Mike 
2013/03/17 11:11:11
tayzonday
maximumpower


Would this work? 
http://www.cakewalk.com/D...amp;Req=Mixing.56.html

I guess it's time to upgrade from X1d build 535 to X2 and find out! I'll try this today and get back. It looks promising.
2013/03/17 11:43:26
Razorwit
Hi Tayzonday,
If I'm understanding you correctly you can absolutely do this in your current version of Sonar. Just select the tracks you want to bounce, click "track", then "bounce to tracks". In the following window choose "buses" as your Source Category, then choose which bus you want as your source, choose a destination and click OK. Easy peazy :)

Dean
2013/03/17 12:32:20
kevo

What I WANT is to be able to record the audio of the BUS "416 K2" BACK to a THIRD audio track . . . THEN have that audio track output straight to the Master Bus. That way . . . when I edit vocal takes . . . I won't have two copies of everything.
 
EDITED: I didn't realize Bounce to tracks offered the option of bouncing busses.
 
When bouncing to track you wand to select "Busses" in the dialog and be certain to only have the vocal buss selected.
 
This will do what you asked.
 
 
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