I seem to be experiencing some Saturday afternoon brain lag...
 
How do I set up the track and MIDI routing to use a 3rd-party sequencer plugin (in this case, Kirnu Cream) with Sonar?
 
The plugin installs as a VST instrument, no problems.
It accepts the MIDI input from my keyboard controller just fine, but for the life of me I can't figure out how to get the MIDI output from the sequencer to trigger a synth inside Sonar.
 
I'm sure this will be a "duh" moment for me when someone points out the obvious thing I'm overlooking...
 
Thanks in advance -
 
Randy

I'm not sure exactly what you mean but I think you want to click the input (or maybe output) of the track and select whatever it is you are trying to use. 

Sorry if that was vague. If youa re using a controller be sure to click the Input Echo button too.

Thanks - but I had my "duh" moment;
When inserting the sequencer as a soft synth, need to check the "Enable MIDI Out" option.
(Otherwise, the sequencer doesn't show up as a MIDI input source for the other synths)
 
Duh...

You do know that Sonar is a MIDI sequencer right?

John


You do know that Sonar is a MIDI sequencer right?

No - really?!

hey rivers - totally get why you want to do this... cthulhu comes to mind...
a word of warning though.  i've got an x2 project with couple of instances of reaktor doing lfo and envelope-based control changes to different synths - so, 2 instances of reaktor midi output running into two different midi tracks on different channels for recording purposes.  problem is, sonar confuses the two instances of reaktor and records the output of instance one on both midi tracks.  i have to shut down all synths that enable midi output except for one when recording otherwise the whole thing is a mess.  i'm still testing it out but you might want to give that a shot just to make sure your setup is running ok with it.

my config is
reaktor 1 cc 4 output-->> midi track a on channel 2
reaktor 2 cc 22 output -->> midi track b on channel 4
midi track a -->> rapture
midi track b -->> dimension pro

i'd be interested to know if you have the same issues with the plug you're using and would be more than grateful if you could check it out before i file a problem report.


cheers and i look forward to trying out KC at some point.

John


You do know that Sonar is a MIDI sequencer right?

You do know that there are 3rd party plugs with sequencing functionality that Sonar doesn't have, right? 

swamptooth


hey rivers - totally get why you want to do this... cthulhu comes to mind...
a word of warning though.  i've got an x2 project with couple of instances of reaktor doing lfo and envelope-based control changes to different synths - so, 2 instances of reaktor midi output running into two different midi tracks on different channels for recording purposes.  problem is, sonar confuses the two instances of reaktor and records the output of instance one on both midi tracks.  i have to shut down all synths that enable midi output except for one when recording otherwise the whole thing is a mess.  i'm still testing it out but you might want to give that a shot just to make sure your setup is running ok with it.

my config is
reaktor 1 cc 4 output-->> midi track a on channel 2
reaktor 2 cc 22 output -->> midi track b on channel 4
midi track a -->> rapture
midi track b -->> dimension pro

i'd be interested to know if you have the same issues with the plug you're using and would be more than grateful if you could check it out before i file a problem report.


cheers and i look forward to trying out KC at some point.

I'm just getting started using Cream (it's actually still in beta) , but I'll post later as I find out more about it.  I do like the interface, and it sounds like my ultimate goal is going to be somewhat similar to yours ~ in my case, I plan to use the CC track programmability to run through an external MIDI-to-CV convertor, then route to some other analog gear for synchronized CV control.
 
Basically, I plan to use it in lieu of an expensive external analog sequencer (totally off the table now, thanks to the upcoming USG budget cuts!), and since it's a VST plugin, I should be able to run it inside a minimal VST host on a low-end netbook that can't handle the overhead of a DAW like Sonar.
 
Randy

sharke

John


You do know that Sonar is a MIDI sequencer right?

You do know that there are 3rd party plugs with sequencing functionality that Sonar doesn't have, right? 

Well, I am JUST a hobbyist who has not achieved diamond-encrusted gold platinum poster status yet, so what do I know...right?

 
It's all good - just another day on an online forum!!

sharke

John


You do know that Sonar is a MIDI sequencer right?

 You do know that there are 3rd party plugs with sequencing functionality that Sonar doesn't have, right?  

No actually. What are they? What would that be? 


What benefit is there in the OP's plugin over what Sonar offers? And most plugis that have sequencing are synths that work stand alone as well as as a plugin. heck SD3 has patterns. I just would like to know why this is being asked about.