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  • Don't Jump Ship Too Soon (p.4)
2017/11/23 16:48:00
Ken Matson
There won't be any fixes. I doubt there's any developers left at this point, and if they are, it's just to tidy up and archive stuff most likely. If you've never seen a company closed down by a parent company and been a part of it, then you can keep hoping. But I've seen it and when they kill it they kill it. If they were going to sell it they would have already done it and they wouldn't have announced it was closing. 75 to 90% of the sonar user base will be gone within a few weeks. The ones that hang on will be the hobbyists or diehards.
2017/11/23 16:51:22
papacucku
..."has a lot of features that I've wished sonar had for years, and Implement some things much better".  about studio one.
 
I agree that studio one is the closest. The template features are the closest as well even though its possible to still get fantom tracks.  It is not as good a sonar in the small details and features of sonar are way more useful and mature, sorry Sonar may be dead but it the by far the best. Period.   I am a fan of presonus AND studio one for sure.  It has come a long way fast.
 
2017/11/23 16:56:08
Ken Matson
But some things are much better. I'll give one example. Being able to drag in a clip and increase or decrease the gain right there just for that clip and seeing it visually in the waveform size, is something that many applications have, including my video editor believe it or not, that I wish sonar had for years and that Studio One does have.
2017/11/23 16:59:51
cathrinemilton
I'm on SPlat currently and love it, though I've just purchased Studio One 3 Pro on a Black Friday sale. Even if I genuinely hope Sonar will continue to work for at least a year, I need to be fluent on another DAW when Sonar stops being an option. I will finish the current projects I work with and an upcoming album that will be recorded soon. (I already have templates and everything setup). But I recon it will take me about a year to become comfortable using Studio One. Mixed emotions with learning a new DAW, but I feel its imperative not to put all my eggs in the Sonar basket.
2017/11/23 17:11:19
Skyline_UK
aconte22
As a former VP of Sales at Cakewalk for 12 years, and now VP of Sales at Acoustica for the last five years, we would greatly appreciate your kind consideration to take a serious look at Mixcraft 8 Pro Studio. It is maturing with each new version and will surprise many of you. At $179 (on sale this weekend for $99), it includes side-chaining, VST3 and MP4 support, 64-bit and 32-bit, automation and sub-mixing, live recording to performance panel grids and professional video editing. Beautiful pristine sounding VI's emulating Steinway, Moog and many other vintage analog synths, acoustic instruments and orchestral strings. Includes integrated Melodyne Essentials directly into the sound edit tab, and one-click simultaneous publishing to soundcloud, mixcloud, youtube, FB, tumblr and your other music and video sites. Check it out at  the Acoustica website.
 
Please allow me to point out the intangibles. We are a small software-only company focusing on the PC (like the early days of Cakewalk). We have a CTO who came from Sonic Foundry and was part of the senior development team that created Acid and Vegas, which is why you will see that the Loop Library asset management (over 7800 loops and samples with integration of freesound.org into the sound edit tab with instant access to thousands of more free loops) and video editing are far superior than any other DAW on the market today. Mixcraft 8 is for real!


What's Mixcraft like with MIDI - you didn't mention it at all.  Sonar, because of its origins, has always been the best DAW for heavy MIDI users like myself.  I don't know of any other DAW, for example, that has the 'Instrument Definitions' function so outboard MIDI hardware can be talked to/driven from within Sonar.
2017/11/23 17:11:51
JClosed
Karyn
I know it's a bit late to bang on about this again....   Sonar was NOT a subscription.  If it were a subscription it would stop working NOW.  It was pay-by-instalments.  You BOUGHT the license, not rented it. As such it will continue to keep working.




Hmm... I wonder. The model is this: You pay monthly for a year, and after a year the software is yours to use, right?
Now - what happens if someone just bought the software 3 months ago? Will he get the full version of the software for a super bargain prize now? Or does he gets nothing? What will happen?
 
And in my case. I payed the monthly pay for years now. I stopped paying April this year. What version do I get? The fully updated (until now) version, or the version "as it was" on April this year? In other words - does everyone get an unique "tailor-made" version, or does everybody gets, whatever he payed, the final version?
 
The problem here is that it is a two folded model. For those that did have not payed a full year yet, it is a subscription model. If they stop paying, the software stops working at the end of the month and goes into "demo" mode. Typical subscription! After that year you finally "own" the software and the subscription is for all updates. If you stop paying, you stop getting updates. That's the second "soft subscription" mode.
2017/11/23 17:12:17
stxx
Again.... whats is the panic?  Sonar works great as is, is extremely robust as is and will work for many more years to come.   Just ask all the Sonar 8.5 users still out there running fine.   Don't upgrade your windows version if you are that concerned because that's really the ONLY thing that could break it.   Advances in connectivity (i.e Thunderbolt) is where the future is right now, not in new DAW features.   We already have more capability than Electric Lady had so making music is not the issue.  You all own the SW and if you are really that worried, get a new computer now and future proof....
2017/11/23 18:18:14
tparker24
Skyline_UK
I don't know of any other DAW, for example, that has the 'Instrument Definitions' function so outboard MIDI hardware can be talked to/driven from within Sonar.



I know of at least five.  

Of these, Cubase has the most robust implementation.

Then there are these four that support them (in one form or another) but, as far as I can tell, do not have an extended search capability like SONAR's "Patch Browser".  In no particular order: Reaper, Digital Performer, FL Studio, and Pro Tools


 
2017/11/23 18:33:11
J-A-G
Sad sad sad...I jumped the ship as soon as I heard Gibson bought Cakewalk. Was waiting this out and in the meantime have been using Studio One 3 Professional along with Sonar Platinum.
 
I never liked Gibson the company and never trusted them. Always was mad at them because I could never afford their high priced guitars. That is one reason why I am a Fender man. Now I can afford whatever I want but as a kid there was no way I could afford a Les Paul. Hated them for that.
2017/11/23 18:34:02
MagicMike
Advice? If I disconnect my PC from the internet, can I create a very basic virtual PC machine that resides on my PC and use that to connect to the internet? Does my internet adaptor have to be enabled on the host PC?
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