• SONAR
  • potentially lost another project in X1. **SOLVED**
2013/03/11 15:04:26
joshcamp
been working on this project for several months now and just the other day found it wouldn't open. X1 is stuck trying to open it with the blue spinning circle that indicates it's loading - but it doesn't. i left it spinning for hours. I tried all the tricks, ie, safe mode, no plugins.. etc.. restarted etc.. I have other projects that load fine so i know its isolated to this one. same thing happened to one other project a while ago. lost it. i tried to create a new project and import the tracks but then they don't line up and would likely spend months trying to get them perfectly aligned if even i could. i thought i had versioning activated but i cannot seem to locate the versions. yes, autosave was activated but those files suffer the same fate (ie, no open) not sure what to do. i suspect a track was corrupted or a plugin conflict is the cause. what to do ???
2013/03/11 16:32:55
Kalle Rantaaho
That's a nasty one.
I find it strange that not even safe mode allowed you to open, and that you got no error message. The fact that autosaved versions suffer the same might well point to plugins.

When you tried safe mode, did you get no pop ups to pick the allowed VSTs - anything?
Do you open the projects inside SONAR or clicking the .cwp-icon? Two lost .cwp-projects in a short time is alarming. Even if they were .cwb's, which are more vulnerable, it would be equally alarming. 

What are your PC specs and OS? How much free space on HDDs? HDD's defragged? What plugins did you have in the projects? I was close to losing a project with Melodyne plugin active in it once.
Have you checked the save-path in case SONAR is looking for the project in the wrong place (but in that case you should get an error message)?
2013/03/11 16:44:15
BlixYZ
do you know how to find the back up files created by versioning?
They can't be opened from Sonar's regular "open file" dialog.  You can navigate to them directly using windows, or there is a key command i think that allows you to (shift click?)

I'm just saying, double check- because if you have those versions saved somewhere, you might be fine.
2013/03/11 16:47:43
scook
If all else fails, maybe tech support can recover the cwp for you if you send them a copy.
2013/03/11 17:11:06
Seth Kellogg [Cakewalk]
scook


If all else fails, maybe tech support can recover the cwp for you if you send them a copy.

FWIW, Tech Support doesn't have access to any special tools for project recovery. In the past people who had projects from older versions of SONAR (prior to 7) could send them to support and we would re-save them in a newer version. Since the project was originally authored in the X series it already includes this code.

The two things I can recommend to the original poster is going back to a previous project file or dragging the project file from the browser into a new blank project. Also if you've updated any 3rd party plug-ins you may want to roll back.
2013/03/11 17:28:21
scook
Thanks for the clarification.
2013/03/12 00:29:52
daveny5
Run a disk scan. Sounds like your disk drive has issues. 
2013/03/12 02:20:36
stickman393
Ouch. If all else fails, treat this as an expensive lesson on making regular backups.

Personally, I do not trust SONAR's autoversioning or autosave. After each session, I manually copy my projects to separate drives (one NAS drive on the LAN, and one external USB drive), keeping the last 2 known good versions.

2013/03/13 14:04:41
joshcamp
Kalle, thanks for your reply. All the usual happened in safe mode, ie, pop up box with options to select plugins,etc but then the project never opens, sonar seems to hang. keep in mind, other projects open as normal so i don't believe its my hard drive. One thing that leads me to believe it may be my fault is that, yes, i recently did defrag the hard drive and then noticed this problem soon after, though i'm not sure it happened directly afterwards.. the project is in its right place, checked ! thanks !
2013/03/13 14:06:42
joshcamp
 BlixYZ, I haven't looked yet as i've put it all off out of despair and disgust. I will begin looking today. And no, I don't know where to find the versions as I haven't had to before this. Thanks for the tips !
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