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  • New Studio set-up needed...ideas please... (p.2)
2013/03/12 14:43:26
Paul P
Hey Frostysnake, that thing is awesome ! I didn't know this sort of thing existed.

If it's solid, it might indeed be an interesting option.

You could have a regular surface behind you or off to the side for writing stuff.
2013/03/12 14:46:49
Metalbat
I made my own        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyKlzTSmzQ0&feature=youtube_gdata   the front section can be removed and changed to match any new gear. I'm going to replace the mixer with a touch screen monitor. Make one if you can.
2013/03/12 14:55:21
Frostysnake
I NEED a track ball for sure! Good cal Beep...and I am also considering bulding one as well, so I do appreciate the input...this is great! Can anyone give me there old 20X20 building if they aren't using it??
2013/03/12 15:01:21
Stipes Vigilo
Another store worth mentioning for Studio Furniture:

http://www.samedaymusic.com/browse--Studio-Racks-and-Workstations--2799 

I've personally reached a stage where all of those really don't fit.

So I'm contemplating building my own...
In fact I have two 12sp rack cage rails coming in this week so
I can put them at the required depth of 30" for my UPS and C30.

MOTUs being only 7" deep are a hassle to work connections in the back of a 15/19 rack.
Radias being only 5" seems to be better suited to being angled down from above.
Desks in productions are usually too long and not deep enough.
And the desktop rack bridges never take into account that you lose the bottom 2/3 spaces
with whatever you put on the desk in front of it.

It would be really nice if these companies actually built them as they are used.
2013/03/12 15:10:31
Paul P
Metalbat : "I made my own "

Nice !

Making your own is definitely rewarding if you have the equipment and the time.

I have a full-blown woodworking shop left over from another life, but I don't have much time to spare these days.
2013/03/12 15:22:15
Beepster
How good of a carpenter are you and are you allowed to attach stuff to your walls? I've built tons of desks mounted directly to the walls with angled supports (so there are no desk legs getting in the way) and then built platforms around that. Sometimes I'll hang shelves from chains attached to the ceiling and stuff too. 

All made out of sheets of laminate given to me or yanked out of the trash (think broken down Ikea stuff). Then I just buy some screws and 1x4's (for extra support and to give the screws something solid to bite into). I attach it all to the wall studs but if I can't for some reason (aluminum studs, drywall/plaster on concrete, etc...) I use evenly space plugs to attach the main mounting 2x4 (usually salvaged as well) then work around that.

I've made crazy set ups this way in some seemingly impossible spaces. Now however I can't really do that because my current space won't allow for it and I'm not quite as physically capable of that level of mayhem. The current set up is a couple old interior doors that I attached folding steel table legs to (with 1x4's for extra support and to give the screws something to bite into) and one folding desk with a resin top. The table legs were $20 a pair and the resin table was $40. I want to cover the door tables with sticky floor tiles so they are a cleanable high gloss surface (currently just enamel paint which isn't great but works). 

Essentially I have three huge surfaces. The resin top is where my DAW lives. One of the door tables is on the abutting wall creating an L shaped work surface with the resin desk and has my Line6 head on it and I use it to put my laptop there so I can read manuals, the forum, lyrics etc (I keep copies of all that stuff on the laptop so I can just have Sonar in view on the big rig at all times). Eventually my mixer and when I need it my big keyboard will live there too. The other door desk is on the other side of the room and is basically a work table where I can work on my guitars and stuff but I also have my old DAW sitting on it so I can eventually fire it back up to transfer all my old projects to the new system. It might end up being where the laptop will live eventually too if I decide to leave my big keyboard set up all the time.

Long winded post is long winded but I'm taking a break from cleaning and figured it might give you some ideas. Cheers, Frosty.
2013/03/12 15:28:47
Beepster
Oh and the only tools I need to make those crazy home made laminate desks are a handsaw (but a chopsaw is helpful for the angle cuts), a level (just to mark the wall so the desk is level), a framing square (any square will do though or even something with a tight right angle like a pack of smokes) and a drill with a couple boring and driver bits... oh and a pencil.

I kind of miss doing my crazy carp.
2013/03/12 15:32:29
Stipes Vigilo
BTW:
I have the same problem with simple keyboard stands for decades.
Racks divide into what things must be horizontal (computers and back up power)
and those more acessable in front and back by angling them on a movable axis.
It's best if we remember that a percentage of our time dealing with
racks are in the back of it.

Everything could be better designed.
2013/03/12 15:39:35
Paul P
Stipes Vigilo : "It's best if we remember that a percentage of time dealing with racks are in the back of it. "

Good point. Having a patchbay to bring all the rear connections up front is a blessing.

I made one for my stuff. Time consuming and expensive if you use quality jacks (sockets, UK) but very much worth it.

A bit tricky with XLR and USB connections, but possible.
2013/03/13 10:53:16
Jay Tee 4303
I have a highly modified Fender Squier with a wireless Logitech trackball mounted to the right of the bridge using double sticky pads. There's also a wired optical mouse on that same computer, the two get along fine and don't fight. Very handy while moving around playing guitar, easy to stop and start Sonar without my guitar banging into the desk. I wouldn't do that to a guitar with a nice finish but the Squier is plain black. I have to pull the adhesive pads to change trackball batteries once in a while, and the remaining adhesive rolls off the guitar finish with thumb pressure.
 
One thing to be aware of...this trackball is designed to operate in a horizontal position, with gravity holding the ball tight to both X-Y rollers to scroll smoothly in two dimensions. With the trackball mounted on the face of the guitar while standing, there's a bit of slop in precision trackballing, but my fingers learned to allow for it the first day.
 
 
 
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