I was banned after my first entry into the Cakewalk forums (for one month), so here i am again. 

I await the outcome of Sonar X2B. I hope there will be a significant improvement in the bug situation. I still haven't committed to any of the major DAWs yet, but i know that none of them currently offer the equivalent of the Pro-console. That is the biggy for me, the option to have the sound of three different high-end consoles is hard to resist, but if there are significant complaints after the release of 2B, then i'm gone for good.

I'll inform the UN. 

Cubase is a very difficult program to use.  You have to know it, you can't learn it quick and easy like Sonar.  The X Series of Sonar has been designed to specifically make it as easy as cake, for the newbie to get involved with Audio Production.

Cubase's workflow has had no such tweaks.   If you do not know Cubase already, and or have no way of properly learning its intricate workflow that has stayed the same since its inception, than I suggest you do not go near it, as you will only waste your money.   

Edit = I had the pleasure of learning on Cubase v3, some 8 years ago..   Its a brilliant program, but does not do so much more than Sonar, or Studio One, or Reaper, or anything really, to justify its extreme learning curve for the uninitiated.

what is a "Pro-console".

It does make me feel a little bad when I read these kinds of posts. When I jumped the sonar x1 band wagon I bought a spanking new 6 core amd and a supposed "military grade" motherboard. 8 megs of ram and Win764. Also new sata drives, video card, cd burner. All from Microcenter in Cambridge MA. I Built it all from scratch and set it up clean and tidy in a rack mount server ATX case.

For some unknown reason I have seemed to have hit the lottery when it comes to having sonar work right. All of the versions, all of the patches, and all of the quick fix just seem to work properly with my little studio computer.

When I am recording I take my time and press stop on the transport before I go dragging around plugins, as well as save my files every 5 min or so. I take each step one at a time and let the computer finish what it needs to do before I try to make it do something else. So far I can count the number of crashes I've had on 10 fingers over 2 years.

Please dont take this as bragging as I'm really not.  I'm just trying to convey that if you can find yourself in a situation where you arent worried about the hardware then the true feeling of runnning a fantastic sounding DAW just melts into your head and brings such inner peace and creativity. I'm just really sad that you aren't able to experience this feeling that many of us here on the forum express and I hope you find the answer to your daw problems so you can move on to the art of making music.

chuckebaby


what is a "Pro-console".

I think it's when you put your arm around a hooker and tell her everything's going to be alright. 

No new program is difficult to learn. People have a total misconception on this. The human brain is rather amazing. It is as simple as stop using the program you have been using and start using the program you are going to use. You go the website and read all the stuff on what it does, you read all the SOS reviews, get a few Groove 3 videos and you are well under way. Remember most DAW's are doing exactly the same thing conceptually.

Other programs like Ableton or FL Studio might take a little getting used to but even so it is still easy. They say the program that has the hardest learning curve is Magix Samplitude. Cubase is not difficult to use at all.

I switched from Sonar to Studio One and had it down in days. Once familiar you will totally forget your old program. I cannot even use Sonar now. But if I was to go back I am sure I would have it down again in no time. Some DAW's do make it easier to switch though as they can be very intuitive. Others like Samplitude are not so intuitive. 

bandso


It does make me feel a little bad when I read these kinds of posts. When I jumped the sonar x1 band wagon I bought a spanking new 6 core amd and a supposed "military grade" motherboard. 8 megs of ram and Win764. Also new sata drives, video card, cd burner. All from Microcenter in Cambridge MA. I Built it all from scratch and set it up clean and tidy in a rack mount server ATX case.

For some unknown reason I have seemed to have hit the lottery when it comes to having sonar work right. All of the versions, all of the patches, and all of the quick fix just seem to work properly with my little studio computer.

When I am recording I take my time and press stop on the transport before I go dragging around plugins, as well as save my files every 5 min or so. I take each step one at a time and let the computer finish what it needs to do before I try to make it do something else. So far I can count the number of crashes I've had on 10 fingers over 2 years.

Please dont take this as bragging as I'm really not.  I'm just trying to convey that if you can find yourself in a situation where you arent worried about the hardware then the true feeling of runnning a fantastic sounding DAW just melts into your head and brings such inner peace and creativity. I'm just really sad that you aren't able to experience this feeling that many of us here on the forum express and I hope you find the answer to your daw problems so you can move on to the art of making music.

fellow bostonian !!!!
 
i too built this model i use at microcenter..its an AMD phenom 2 black edition/6 core with 8 gb of ram and guess what...???
 
the lotery is amazing aint it?
 
not a hick up except your everyday,what the heck is that? once in a while which the last one was over a month ago.
i feel bad too for these guys spending 1000/1500 on I7's with 16gb ram and having issues.
here i built this as a test computer for 450.00 bucks and it smokes lightining !!
 
im a builder myself and microcenter is my outlet right there in cambridge.
i build 3-4 computers a month(so im fairly small)but those computers i build half are daws.the other gaming systems,personal computers.
great results.
ive converted a few over to AMD.
i cant say for pro tools or cubase as much as i can sonar,AMD and sonar play great together.
 
nice post

sharke

chuckebaby


what is a "Pro-console".

I think it's when you put your arm around a hooker and tell her everything's going to be alright. 

       

Protools is normally the picky one when it comes to what DAW it will or will not run. Before X1, I had a digi002 and you had to use a computer built specifically for protools or you were sh** out of luck. (intel Q6600, intel motherboard)

Then x1 came along and I knew I was going to jump in head first. I had sonar 8.5 producer for awhile but it didn't play nice with the digi002 and hence didn't get much use.  X1 was just simply killer though and I knew it was time to upgrade. So I got the new computer, a mackie blackbird interface, and have been in recording bliss ever since (although I did switch to two delta1010lt's when I rehooked up my analog recording board) Still no problems.  I myself am a really happy camper!