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2013/03/08 12:10:31
LLyons
I thought about a few of the fine comments here - a good one that suggests we can learn the basics of a SW package in a weekend, and thats true for me.  For others it's more difficult. Opinions do not make it less difficult.  Another good set that try to answer the OP with their hard earned knowledge, and I find their answers true for me.  My view...

"There ain't no free lunch"  - opinions aren't free because generally, you still have to see if they are true for you, or sit later and try to point the finger at that darned so and so.  That to me is a sad way to live life - blame others for something one should have taken responsibility for.  Many do the work and take the time and are rewarded.  

Engineer -  to get to a point to understand the science and application of knowledge takes a lifetime - a collegiate study.  Installing software and playing around is one thing.  Coming up with a sellable product is another.  Getting to know it so well, you are a master - that's zen. Many here on this website have endeavored countless hours in learning the science, and helping others in this forum to learn how it applies with Sonar as an implementation of the science. 
 
You have answers OP from some very good people. You also have some flames.  Take the answers and do diligence, work to own your own opinion.  Work to know the science and art.  If you do - I promise it will be time and effort well spent.  You have a choice - work, ask, help - or - agitate, be mean, be empty.  Glib rhetoric has less value than the energy one breaths to spew it out - it is a fools way to show importance.

Your choice, but I hope you choose a good product like Sonar - the folks here have a combined body of knowledge invaluable in many ways.   

L
2013/03/08 12:24:42
John
  This was asked and answered the last time the OP posted on this subject before he was banned. The answers are much the as they were then.  

It was these questions from him that resulted in his being banned. 

I see no point in repeating the same nonsense from last time. 

I ask this of the members why has he started the same thread for apparently the same reasons? 

This thread is now on its third page, isn't that long enough?
2013/03/08 12:43:07
Frostysnake
This individual nees to go and everyone needs to stop biting...S?=%$...I just wasted 2 minutes on this fool...now I'm guilty!
2013/03/08 12:44:10
Frostysnake
....and for the record...I skipped pages 1 and 2 all together...
2013/03/08 13:24:38
stevec
It was these questions from him that resulted in his being banned. I see no point in repeating the same nonsense from last time. I ask this of the members why has he started the same thread for apparently the same reasons?

 
That's not really true, John...   Last time around it was all about Mixcraft, apparently the best DAW ever.  But this time around it started with Cubase/SONAR but then somehow morphed into Studio One/SONAR.  I guess in the end, Mixcraft wasn't all it was cracked up to be.   (double entendre there).   
 
2013/03/08 15:17:47
chuckebaby
stevec



It was these questions from him that resulted in his being banned. I see no point in repeating the same nonsense from last time. I ask this of the members why has he started the same thread for apparently the same reasons?

 
That's not really true, John...   Last time around it was all about Mixcraft, apparently the best DAW ever.  But this time around it started with Cubase/SONAR but then somehow morphed into Studio One/SONAR.  I guess in the end, Mixcraft wasn't all it was cracked up to be.   (double entendre there).   
 

I think you were very fair with your advise here steve,
on all your posts.
2013/03/08 17:46:35
stevec
Thanks, Charlie, I did make the attempt.  
 
Though I ended with a sentence that could be taken multiple ways...  
2013/03/08 19:42:09
godparticle
Bottom line is that no one in their right mind is gonna spend a month trying to learn a DAW that might not be the appropriate one, that should be obvious. As i have already said, either Sonar or S1 will easily be capable of doing the job, i was just hoping that a few comments from experienced users of both DAW's might be able to chime in and steer me in the right direction. Clearly there are very few people in here that know anything at all about S1 so i'll have to do a more extensive Google search.

A comment to sharke, i acknowledge your last post, it was civil and sincere. Cheers.

Other than that LLyons and pbognar were the only two who posted with decency and sincerity. The rest of you need help. And just remember this, intelligence does not automatically equate to wisdom. 
2013/03/08 19:56:58
Jeff Evans
I am probably the most experienced Studio One user here as I have been using it for the last two years as my main DAW. And also I have answered numerous PM's to you direct on the subject so I am not sure what it is you are still wanting to know.

You can download Studio One Free remember and use it indefinitely. There is no VST support though (only in Free and Artist) so that might be an issue for you. There is a check list on the Presonus site that explains the differences between the various versions pretty clearly. But what it does do should give you a pretty good overall feel.

You should be able to get the feel for what Sonar is like from the forum here directly so you really should have enough information to be able to make an informed choice. Still though nothing like using them so it is time to stop talking about it really and download both demos and get to it. That is really the only way you are going to find out. What is stopping you? The more you talk about it the more it looks like you are just stirring up trouble. 

Some more good advice. There are many many video tutorials both on the Sonar website and the Presonus site and a plethora of Youtube stuff. Also download and read the SOS reviews for the programs of interest. They will cover things rather well too. Are there any decent shops near where you live. Here in Melbourne for example there (was, not now though) was a great shop that had about 7 or 8 DAW's permanently setup and running all day on laptops and you could easily move from one to the other testing them out.

Anyway the OP was about Cubase 7. Is there a Cubase demo? Why not give that a shot.
2013/03/08 21:25:30
Fog
ling ling should come back, wonder how she got on with her wedding songs? least she was funny.

I use sonar , cubase and reason.. been here for years... not got banned.. well not yet.

I like bits in all 3, but I've decided to slow up and buy things grace period now as I can't be bothered with companies "economical with the truth" marketing / finding bugs etc.

as a long term cubase user, the new upgrade price stinks as well.. so they can wait..

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