• SONAR
  • Practical steps to exporting a SONAR project for another DAW
2017/11/28 18:19:03
vanceen
I'm continuing to use SONAR, but I'm also immediately getting on the learning curve for Reaper because I think it's inevitable that SONAR won't be usable at some point in the future.
 
I don't want to lose any of the projects I've done, so I've started taking a look at how to export everything. At the moment, this is the process I'm using:
 
1. Open Track Manager and make everything visible.
2. Bounce everything to clips.
3. Drag the left hand edge of every clip all the way to the start of the project.
4. Select all the audio tracks and export them as .wav files.
5. Drag the MIDI tracks one by one into the folder with the .wav files, where they will appear with names like Clip(1).mid.
6. Rename all the MIDI tracks to indicate what they were in the SONAR project.
7. Using the new DAW, import the audio files. Then drag and drop the .mid files onto MIDI tracks.
 
Can anyone suggest a more efficient way of getting this done?
 
Thanks in advance.
2017/11/28 18:23:16
Anderton
I'm investigating a bunch of options for the next SONAR column in Sound on Sound. So far no "magic bullets" but it may also depend on the type of project.
vanceen
I'm continuing to use SONAR, but I'm also immediately getting on the learning curve for Reaper because I think it's inevitable that SONAR won't be usable at some point in the future.
 
I don't want to lose any of the projects I've done, so I've started taking a look at how to export everything. At the moment, this is the process I'm using:
 
1. Open Track Manager and make everything visible.
2. Bounce everything to clips.
3. Drag the left hand edge of every clip all the way to the start of the project.
4. Select all the audio tracks and export them as .wav files.
5. Drag the MIDI tracks one by one into the folder with the .wav files, where they will appear with names like Clip(1).mid.
6. Rename all the MIDI tracks to indicate what they were in the SONAR project.
7. Using the new DAW, import the audio files. Then drag and drop the .mid files onto MIDI tracks.
 
Can anyone suggest a more efficient way of getting this done?
 
Thanks in advance.




Something you might want to take a look at that is in the installer of REAPER, and does not install by default is the virtual ASIO device ReaRoute.
 
When I switched from Sonar to REAPER 9 years ago, I used ReaRoute to move my audio directly out of Sonar into REAPER. In addition I used a virtual midi cable (MidiOx I think) to move all the midi at the same time, and lastly I set Sonar to transmit midi clock and REAPER to slave to it, so I could in one real time playback, move all audio and midi from Sonar to REAPER.
 
ReaRoute looks to both Sonar and REAPER as an ASIO audio device driver, and selecting it in both DAWs, outs in Sonar and inputs in REAPER, lets you put each audio track in Sonar on numbered channels of ReaRoute. Then in REAPER you set the same number of tracks into record ready, and assign their inputs to be assigned the same channel numbers in ReaRoute. This gets a multi-channel digital pipeline for the audio established between the two DAWs, so the data is not going through any D to A and A to D conversion which would introduce audio degradation.
 
In my case, I also added the virtual midi cable between the two DAWs in a similar manner. Once I had all the audio and midi channels setup to send from Sonar and to receive in REAPER, it was just a matter of putting all tracks to be moved into record ready in REAPER, hitting record (which was then waiting on the midi clock from Sonar), and lastly hitting play in Sonar, which started the transports rolling in both DAWs.
 
HTH
 
2017/11/28 19:22:57
S.L.I.P.
I'm just curious if anybody successfully transferred files to another DAW using either OMF, or Broadcast waves.
2017/11/28 22:38:28
bgalvin
Use "Snipping Tool" and Paint.net (both free) to archive a screenshot of TrackView and ConsoleView. Put that into your output folder.
2017/11/28 23:04:29
vanceen
S.L.I.P.
I'm just curious if anybody successfully transferred files to another DAW using either OMF, or Broadcast waves.




I have used both OMF and broadcast waves to send tracks to a colleague using Protools so that he could add some tracks. That works pretty well.
2017/11/28 23:05:47
vanceen
Some good ideas here.
 
ReaRoute and midiox I'll have to look into. Hope I can get my head around it.
 
The Snipping Tool idea is excellent.
 
Craig, I hope you'll let us know on here when the Sound on Sound article appears.
 
2017/11/28 23:07:50
dcmg
All good suggestions and the above mentioned process is what I'm landing on.
For vocal tracks, I'm archiving a raw version and one with all tuning applied.
Three rules:
1. render things that must stay sounding "as is" with FX applied ( other export raw)
2. Full zero start time wavs
3. Document ( notes, screenshots). You can't have too much info when rebuilding a mix.
 
2017/11/28 23:14:19
Anderton
FWIW - just found out that if SOP and SONAR are open at the same time, I can drag and drop files from SOP to SONAR (no groove clips, though, they have to be rendered first).
2017/11/28 23:18:33
DeeringAmps
midi or just audio?
12
© 2025 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1

Use My Existing Forum Account

Use My Social Media Account