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2010/09/26 01:44:00
Resonant Order
Intel also has a history of shady business practices, and I'd rather go with a company like AMD that publicly states that they support the free market. If and when I spend even a dollar, I prefer that it go to the more ethical companies.

http://www.amd.com/us/abo...-open-competition.aspx

Intel has a checkered history:

http://www.electronista.c...lation.in.ftc.lawsuit/

"Leibowitz said in the press conference that Intel also engaged in predatory design practices, which didn't improve the performance of its chips but did thwart the ability of competitors to integrate with Intel's chips. The settled lawsuit also alleged that Intel's CPU compilers were designed expressly to make AMD's chips perform badly."

http://www.theregister.co...tc_settles_with_intel/

I'm also not thrilled at Intel's stance on HDCP. If I buy something, I should have every right to back up what I own instead of having to buy it again. Also, it's another case of Intel purposely steering away from open/free standards, and making their wares incompatible with the competition.

http://www.wired.com/thre...%28Top+Stories+2%29%29

http://boingboing.net/201...el-threatens-laws.html
2010/09/26 02:01:14
Lanceindastudio
i was with AMD when they were better and all was fine. Im now with intel cuz they are better and all is fine...


Intel is on top right now, and if one cant make an intel system work with good parts,
that is an I D 10 T error-

Not pointing fingers, just stating the obvious.
2010/09/26 09:08:03
Muziekschuur at home
10Ten,
 
I have not yet figured everything out. Choosing a CPU is one thing. Knowing the MOBO and CPU play nice is a second. This I have not yet verified. As stated I'd love to have a mobo that offers 4 pci slots...
 
It is very assuring severall people here use that cpu and are satisfied...
 
I do value Scotts opinion. But I just like (if performance is not really an issue with this enormous power available (it's like 10 times the power of my x2?) 6 cpu's. Allso because multicore usage isn't optimized, so a 6 core could perform way different with servicepack 4 of w7 than it does with servicepack 1
2010/09/26 09:36:45
daveny5
I only use Intel CPUs in my computers. AMD just doesn't compare. Maybe someone should do a study to see whether Intel or AMD CPUs have less trouble running Sonar. Cakewalk: you listening?

Read the July issue of Maximum PC. They ran an article on the AMD hexacores and the verdict was that Intel Hyper-threaded Quad cores have the edge unless you're just looking to save money or you need a CPU that's compatible with the mobo you have.
2010/09/26 11:00:11
Grem
daveny5


Read the July issue of Maximum PC. They ran an article on the AMD hexacores and the verdict was that Intel Hyper-threaded Quad cores have the edge unless you're just looking to save money or you need a CPU that's compatible with the mobo you have.

Exactly. Now AMD may get into the game when Bulldozer (new cpu) comes out. But right now Intel has best bang for buck.

I am and AMD guy. Always have been. They always gave me great service. But before I lay down my hard earned cash, I will get the best bang for the buck no matter who makes it. My music PC is AMD (look at sig). This one I'm typing on is Intel that I got for $600.

edit: MaximumPC is a great mag!!! go to www.maximumpc.com

2010/09/26 13:14:37
Grem
I might have to correct myself.

AMD has come out with some new 6 cores. And one is at 3.5ghz for $180!!!

edit: There was a misprint in the magazine. It's a 3.5quad for $180!
2010/09/27 09:08:50
jcschild
Muziekschuur at home


Scott,

I still use a dualcore wich suits my needs. I am quite sure a 6 core will be more than I need. So other things matter more. Stability is offcourse the main thing. I allso need a mobo with at least 3 or 4 pci slots.... And around 4GB memory would suffice...

You know two years ago most DAW's were not able to take advantage of more then 2 cores. Now to be able to own 6 on one chip is exiting. I still am not sure (seen proof of) that DAW's know how to benefit fully from 4/8 or 12 core's. So one chip & 6 cores for such a low price is exiting...

Just have to investigate some more.

Recently I went from XP to Vista64 to W7 64. And my DAW gained responsiveness. So my X2 is now I think 10% faster. With 20 tracks & alot of plugins this matters. Within the limitations of this system. & it is still very reliable and so on. So that 6 core will probably blow my mind.

1) good luck finding a board with 3-4 PCI. its nearly a dead slot. and will be very shortly.
i would not be surprised to see the next tech (Sandy Bridge) drop them completely.
i recall seeing a few 1156 boards that had 3-4. X58 forget it.
 
2) 6 core of AMD still do not outperform 4 cores if intel.
3) yes most Hosts can handle 4-12 or more cores Sonar included.
effects/VSTis on the other hand... howver windows 7 does a great job of core management.
 
2010/09/27 15:57:30
Muziekschuur at home
Thanks Scott,

I will now rethink my needs. I just repaired my DM24. And may switch to a M-audio fireport lightbridge & integrate my HD24 & DM24 to a homerecordingrig....

Maybe the Sandy Bridge will bring more speed & it would be wize to drop my RBUS cards...
2010/09/27 20:59:06
koolbass
I've been using the Intel 970 hexcore i7, and it has been stable for me.  The last time I had an AMD cpu, I seemed to have more hardware compatibility issues.  Definitely NOT the case with my current Intel chip.
2010/09/27 22:41:02
DeeringAmps
Muziekschuur,
Tried the lightbridge; no joy.
Went with the RME Hammerfall HDSP 9652, it works flawlessly!
As far as CPU's; was an AMD fan, now Intel, about to go i7 930.
Tom
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