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2013/03/07 20:19:14
digimidi
@scook
Very good reference by Cakewalk to freezing.  Thanks!
2013/03/07 20:32:32
M_Glenn_M
scook


If you are using a Simple Instrument Track, split it.

I'm not sure what you are suggesting. 
Splitting a track just makes 2 smaller audio clips at the now time.
If you mean "Split Instrument track", it does the same thing. Just disappears.
2013/03/07 20:34:32
John
He means separate the MIDI track from the audio track. Simple Instruments tracks allow this.  
2013/03/07 20:36:42
M_Glenn_M
I'm guessing he also means doing it before I froze the original midi track to get the audio? That misunderstanding seems to be what has killed the original midi track
Next time then?
2013/03/07 20:39:59
scook
Yes, I was suggesting splitting the instrument track into separate audio and MIDI tracks. If it is the case that you have truly lost the MIDI track, you may need to open a backup copy of the project and retrieve it from there. I do not use Simple Instrument Tracks and have never experienced missing a MIDI track after freezing a synth, not that there is any relation between the two, I do not have any experience with that combination.
2013/03/07 20:49:23
M_Glenn_M
Is there more than the one backup copy hidden somewhere?
In my folder, I have the current file and one "auto" generated backup.
That gets changed so quickly that by the time i think of it, it's made a copy of the mistake.
2013/03/07 20:56:39
scook
You are correct with regard to the autosave fature, I also use the SONAR versioning facility which I have used to recover data in the past.
2013/03/07 21:04:28
John
MIDI is held in the project. There is no backup of it. However you can export the MIDI as a standard MIDI file. This is a good idea just in case. 

Now I have no experience with simple instruments tracks because I avoid them like the plaque. I think all these problems you are having are due to using them. They are not meant for any kind of extra work with them. Their simple for a reason. 

I use a lot of MIDI and I have never had a need to use those things. Their OK to use if you fully understand their limitations. 

All that said the MIDI should still be in that track somewhere. 
 
2013/03/07 22:14:59
M_Glenn_M
Believe it or not, I'm still confused as to what went wrong or how to properly create a wave track without destroying the Midi info.
I see several options in the link but they seem to all assume I have an audio track to begin with.
To be Clear, all I had was a midi clip (track). You know? dots and dashes?
When I froze it, I simply clicked on * in the Inspector and it generated the wave clip (audio).
Unfreezing did NOT reinstate the dots and dashes but went blank.
re freezing reinstated the audio.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24683934/midi.jpg
2013/03/07 22:21:07
VariousArtist
I did mention above that I always make a copy of the MIDI track before I freeze it.  That way I always have the original in case something goes wrong.  Even if it doesn't "go wrong" it is reassuring to know that you have a copy right there without having to worry about unfreezing.
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