hi peter 

ive been using right/click lasso for almost everything lately.

my wife asked me to clear off the table for dinner the other night and I almost pulled out the smart tool .
wish I could right/click lasso everything :)

take care buddy.


Charlie

VariousArtist


So I found a workaround, which is not really an acceptable solution but I need to move on past this issue.  I never like to let these things get the better of me.

Here's what I did:
- add a dummy clip to the start of EVERY track
- add a dummy clip to the end of every track too
- Select ALL clips, right-click and "Bounce clips"
- Now all my clips are exactly the same length
- Insert a redundant tempo change and time sig change before and after the deletion range
- Select all tracks and select the deletion range
- Delete Special \ Delete Hole (with everything checkmarked)


This works, and it successfully removes the timerange from all tracks consistently, as well as shuffle the tempo changes with those clips (this last part would not work without inserting those redundant tempo and time sig changes).

The caveat is that I have lost my individual clips and some automation etc., but at the end of the day I can move on.  I do feel that this feature should be a two-step process:  "select range" and then "remove range completely".

great idea peter,
 
copy/pasted this in my important sonar notes.
 
thanks

chuckebaby


hi peter 

ive been using right/click lasso for almost everything lately.

my wife asked me to clear off the table for dinner the other night and I almost pulled out the smart tool .
wish I could right/click lasso everything :)

take care buddy.


Charlie

That's funny.  Sometimes there are those things in the virtual world that we almost feel like we can bring into the real world.

chuckebaby

VariousArtist


So I found a workaround, which is not really an acceptable solution but I need to move on past this issue.  I never like to let these things get the better of me.

Here's what I did:
- add a dummy clip to the start of EVERY track
- add a dummy clip to the end of every track too
- Select ALL clips, right-click and "Bounce clips"
- Now all my clips are exactly the same length
- Insert a redundant tempo change and time sig change before and after the deletion range
- Select all tracks and select the deletion range
- Delete Special \ Delete Hole (with everything checkmarked)


This works, and it successfully removes the timerange from all tracks consistently, as well as shuffle the tempo changes with those clips (this last part would not work without inserting those redundant tempo and time sig changes).

The caveat is that I have lost my individual clips and some automation etc., but at the end of the day I can move on.  I do feel that this feature should be a two-step process:  "select range" and then "remove range completely".

great idea peter,
 
copy/pasted this in my important sonar notes.
 
thanks

You're welcome.  One thing I've learned to do with my projects is periodically "bounce" down clips and reduce the inherent complexity therein.  Basically creating a "milestone version" that helps in getting rid of multiple clips and any clip gain automation as well as audio snap transients and multiple track lanes, etc, etc.  


I find a few benefits occur from this:  the project file becomes MUCH smaller, and consequently loads very quickly; the track view becomes easier to manage and it's also easier to perform editing functions such as "delete hole" which were failing for me before.  The other major benefit is that your WAV files can be easily imported into a new project (or even a new software sequencer!) should your old project file become corrupt or you just want to use a different sequencer.


I still wish "delete hole" worked without having to combine clips, and that it was a simple two-step process (select timeline, and then remove from project) but alas we have to do whatever we have to do in order to move on.

VariousArtist

FastBikerBoy


The method I use is

Ctrl + A
Sweep the time range in the time ruler
Select Edit--->Delete Special
Check all including "Delete Hole"

No need to split etc.

Does that not work for you?

 
Sadly no, it doesn't.  I only add the split steps in there because that workaround used to help with much older versions of Cakewalk/Sonar (as did putting dummy clips into the hole-to-be-deleted to trick the software into treating all tracks equally and consistently).
 
 

I wonder why that's not working. It works okay here (assuming there's nothing I'm missing of course).

Is it all projects or perhaps older ones created in a different version?

You're lucky you can even check the "delete hole" check box. Sometimes that option is greyed out for me even though I have a chunk of project selected that spans all tracks. 

jrmunday


Just write a little event somewhere in the 'hole'.
It will then delete without any issues.
This 'bug' has annoyed me for years and years!

Yes, me too!  It always legs me up.  Cakewalk please fix!
It shouldn't be necessary to insert dummy events to do such a simple task.

VariousArtist

chuckebaby


hi peter 

ive been using right/click lasso for almost everything lately.

my wife asked me to clear off the table for dinner the other night and I almost pulled out the smart tool .
wish I could right/click lasso everything :)

take care buddy.


Charlie

That's funny.  Sometimes there are those things in the virtual world that we almost feel like we can bring into the real world.

Tell me about it! I was trying to do a ctrl + z on the TV remote last night!!

FastBikerBoy

VariousArtist

FastBikerBoy


The method I use is

Ctrl + A
Sweep the time range in the time ruler
Select Edit--->Delete Special
Check all including "Delete Hole"

No need to split etc.

Does that not work for you?

 
Sadly no, it doesn't.  I only add the split steps in there because that workaround used to help with much older versions of Cakewalk/Sonar (as did putting dummy clips into the hole-to-be-deleted to trick the software into treating all tracks equally and consistently).

I wonder why that's not working. It works okay here (assuming there's nothing I'm missing of course).

Is it all projects or perhaps older ones created in a different version?

^^^^
I use it this way as well and it works here. I did have a ton of headahces using the split clips (on both sides) method. That was as you said - some did, some didn't. I might add that I also thought good thoughts while wearing my lucky hat, but that may or may not have anything to do with it.

FastBikerBoy

VariousArtist

FastBikerBoy


The method I use is

Ctrl + A
Sweep the time range in the time ruler
Select Edit--->Delete Special
Check all including "Delete Hole"

No need to split etc.

Does that not work for you?

 
Sadly no, it doesn't.  I only add the split steps in there because that workaround used to help with much older versions of Cakewalk/Sonar (as did putting dummy clips into the hole-to-be-deleted to trick the software into treating all tracks equally and consistently).

I wonder why that's not working. It works okay here (assuming there's nothing I'm missing of course).

Is it all projects or perhaps older ones created in a different version?

This works foe me...I wonder why it works for some and not others??