again,
i would contact cakewalk about this.

I'm going to respectfully bow out of this convo. I mean you no harm, but was hoping to get you to see the unintended consequences such a post could cause. I think i will just ignore this thread and let Cakewalk deal with it.

dubdisciple


 People who do stuff like this are a prime example of why several teen girls got burned up in the Salem witch trials before someone started to question things. I'm sure you meant well, but maybe ask a question or two before you garb the nail, hammers and crucifix.

Pretty funny reference considering cakewalk is in mass.  seriously, i thought the salem witch trials were due to ergotism http://blogs.howstuffworks.com/2013/02/20/ergot-poisoning-how-an-entire-town-becomes-a-psychedelic-nightmare/ for one.  for another, if the administrators of the cakewalk forum can move a post of mine to a more appropriate group (which happened today) within an hour, i'm sure kvr's administrators must see these things as well...
 
just sayin'

I'm sure various members of cakewalk staff go on kvr themselves. the site and forum are normally 2 separate entities , much like here. *YOU* agree to play nice on any forum you go on to.

it's tricky , in the sense of the only products I own that I can't sell on are cakewalk's out of the many.. but then the way to deal with that is a dongle (real or software based).. so they are damned if they do or don't.  ( Don't even get me started on the fee IK charge to transfer their stuff! )
 
if you pay enough attention here, you see what happens to folk who have bought from sources that aren't selling things  "unregistered" etc. even that isn't un-solvable, by cakewalk and I'm sure they have ways to deal with it.. as obviously the person buying it had good intentions.

the other angle is, they buy the current version.. and it gets them to upgrade etc.. so look at it that way.  cakewalk would rather maybe lose a few $ thru honest customers, than get nothing from folk on certain auction sites  / fake sites set in a far away country ..selling the software for near free.

there are about hhmm 5-6 sites that everyone knows that are house hold names.. guaranteed you'll see cakewalk products listed on em at some point and maybe a certain % of them have been registered.. you think 80% of folk read EULA agreements that they are ticking ? unless you are verbose in legal"ese" then it's baffling. 

I buy retro computer games..even thought they are a couple of £ or $ .. the amount of fakes on certain sites is a joke.. and only if you were in the know , you'd know they weren't what  they purported to be

My concern is:  My license fees will go up, because now I have to cover the losses, that Cakewalk incurs, via the piracy that this so called, "developer's forum," allows.

Cakewalk is not a European Company.  Its a US Company.  Muse Research is a US company.  I think this is absolutely disgusting.

http://www.kvraudio.com/f../viewtopic.php?t=373994

This threads been alive near a month.

This hurts Cakewalk, and it hurts honest Cakewalk Customers.  People who buy their software, and are faithful to the company policies because of their moral standards, are being abused by KVR, and its community of sanctimonious pirates.

I have made screen shots of this page, for reference, I will post a box link, in a edit of this post, in a few moments.

Edit = KVR pirates II, screen shots for reference

https://www.box.com/s/ctmy3zg6aln1vsov71o2

BTW, a community member PM'd me, and said he was concerned that I might be, "banned," from Cakewalk Forums, for making this thread.

  I do not see why I would be banned, I am disgusted by this behavior of piracy on part of the KVR community, and I certainly do not support these actions that infringe upon the copyright and intellectual property of US based businesses. 

However, if for some odd reason, I have crossed some boundary of the Forum TOS, I would appreciate a warning, and a suggestion to stop these posts.  Warning must come from a Cakewalk Team Member, and I will comply.

Thanks

I'm sure if cake are that bothered about it, they will do something.
At a guess I'd say they have better things to be getting on with than chasing minor incidents such as this. Maybe like having lives?

I'm from eu and fully support the law here that anything you buy, you can sell on when no longer required. Basic civil liberties.

I wasn't aware that cake has such a policy and in which case I will not be buying cake products again. It is a disgusting policy to say that licenses cannot be sold on second hand once no longer required. 

That's prob a couple of grand spend that this thread has lost cakewalk from my pockets directly over the next 5 years. Thanks for the heads up linear. I had no idea on the license terms of cake which makes them fairly illegal in the uk anyway. 

Being able to sell a product after you have used it is a, "basic civil liberty," what?

By that style of logic, if you have an infectious disease, it is your right to sell Kleenex after you have used them to wipe your nose.

Well that's definitely not a liberty of any sorts.

That brings up an interesting question. Is software a 'thing' or a privilege ?

Software is a thing. It's something that gets created.