• SONAR
  • X2a - Still unable to 'chase long notes'? (p.2)
2013/03/01 13:55:23
stevec
This is a quote from the Personus Studio One 2 manual.

 
Good catch.   
 
I don't use S1 for MIDI so wasn't even aware that this option was available.
 
2013/03/01 20:00:37
icontakt
Zonno

This is a quote from the Personus Studio One 2 manual.
Yep. When I first used S1, I thought "Wow!"
stevec
I don't use S1 for MIDI
  
Good decision. Still an immature DAW for MIDI. Although I like the "Legato and Overlap Correction" feature (Want Sonar to have it as well).



2013/03/01 20:27:56
jb101
@brundlefly - Good call, freeze does this far better than "chase long notes".
 
@Zonno - Good catch, Sir..
 
@Jlien X - RE your comment "If they're not as buggy as Sonar" - I have not found Sonar any more "buggy" than most DAWS.  Your comments seem to be somewhat loaded.  It works very well here.  Very few bugs.
 
 
2013/03/01 21:01:57
icontakt
jb101
  
@Jlien X - RE your comment "If they're not as buggy as Sonar" - I have not found Sonar any more "buggy" than most DAWS.  Your comments seem to be somewhat loaded.  It works very well here.  Very few bugs.
 
 
I'm sorry if they sounded loaded, but I actually still find Sonar buggy. For example...


this
http://forum.cakewalk.com...px?m=2746358&high=


and this
http://forum.cakewalk.com...px?m=2786346&high=

and this, too (maybe you can try this for me?)
http://forum.cakewalk.com...px?m=2791453&high=


And lots of Sonar users ditched Sonar and went for S1, calling Sonar buggy (and they don't seem to come back even after the X2 release).


But believe me, I love Sonar. That's why I've been using it for over 10 years.
2013/03/02 03:41:04
Bristol_Jonesey
Jlien X


jb101
 
@Jlien X - RE your comment "If they're not as buggy as Sonar" - I have not found Sonar any more "buggy" than most DAWS.  Your comments seem to be somewhat loaded.  It works very well here.  Very few bugs.


I'm sorry if they sounded loaded, but I actually still find Sonar buggy. For example...


this
http://forum.cakewalk.com...px?m=2746358&high=


and this
http://forum.cakewalk.com...px?m=2786346&high=

and this, too (maybe you can try this for me?)
http://forum.cakewalk.com...px?m=2791453&high=


And lots of Sonar users ditched Sonar and went for S1, calling Sonar buggy (and they don't seem to come back even after the X2 release).


But believe me, I love Sonar. That's why I've been using it for over 10 years.

Your first 2 "bugs" both seem to be system specific and, these features are working for myself and other members


Who are these "lots of Sonar users who ditched it in favour of S1"?


All I see on the forum are increasing numbers of new users, almost on a daily basis
2013/03/02 07:22:13
icontakt
Bristol_Jonesey

Your first 2 "bugs" both seem to be system specific and, these features are working for myself and other members 

Who are these "lots of Sonar users who ditched it in favour of S1"?

All I see on the forum are increasing numbers of new users, almost on a daily basis


Thanks for checking the links. These 'other members' are mostly Producer and Studio users, aren't they? If some Essential user could post here and tell me these features do work fine in his Sonar, I'd immediately contact tech support (Cake themselves confirmed the first issue as a bug in the Essential version, as I mentioned in the thread). 

As for the "system specific" assumption, my HP ProBook 4710s clears all requirements listed in the X2 Essential system requirements page (if T9600 is higher than E8200). So all the features in the X2 reference guide are supposed to work on my system.
http://www.cakewalk.com/p..cts/SONAR/X2-Essential/

The "lots of Sonar users who ditched it in favour of S1" statement was for X1, and has nothing to do with the current bugs in X2. I made it confusing. Sorry about that (don't go any further ).

BTW, I forgot to mention what I consider to be a major bug. The Colors option.
2013/03/02 10:36:05
stevec
BTW, I forgot to mention what I consider to be a major bug. The Colors option.

 
Something many S1 users would love to have...  because it means a chance of being fixed! 
 
 
 
(I actually don't mind the S1 UI overall, but color options would be good)
 
2013/03/02 10:52:49
Bristol_Jonesey
Jlien X


Bristol_Jonesey

Your first 2 "bugs" both seem to be system specific and, these features are working for myself and other members 

Who are these "lots of Sonar users who ditched it in favour of S1"?

All I see on the forum are increasing numbers of new users, almost on a daily basis


Thanks for checking the links. These 'other members' are mostly Producer and Studio users, aren't they? If some Essential user could post here and tell me these features do work fine in his Sonar, I'd immediately contact tech support (Cake themselves confirmed the first issue as a bug in the Essential version, as I mentioned in the thread). 

As for the "system specific" assumption, my HP ProBook 4710s clears all requirements listed in the X2 Essential system requirements page (if T9600 is higher than E8200). So all the features in the X2 reference guide are supposed to work on my system.
http://www.cakewalk.com/p..cts/SONAR/X2-Essential/

The "lots of Sonar users who ditched it in favour of S1" statement was for X1, and has nothing to do with the current bugs in X2. I made it confusing. Sorry about that (don't go any further ).

BTW, I forgot to mention what I consider to be a major bug. The Colors option.

No problem 


I also agree that the lack of full colour customisation doesn't really contribute to a better workflow experience.


I don't think of it as a bug though, just a half developed feature (which used to work, but has never been optimal)


When you see some of the screens Panup has managed to create using nothing more than industry wide tools, it begs the question why can't Cakewalk implement this?


This is one of the more frequent complaints that I read about, and it applies across the user spectrum - new users are disappointed and most of  the older heads are perplexed (and disappointed)
2013/03/04 08:27:37
maxsax
I don't know which daws you're talking about, but if they're not as buggy as Sonar, it might actually be a problem. 


Cubase.
It wasn't a problem. Very useful for triggering long note pads, arps etc particularly when the note start was just before the beat. 
2013/03/04 11:02:35
stevec
How does Cubase handle the attack portion when it picks up a note mid-stream?  
 
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